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Paul Kemp
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Quote from: Imperial Speaker Sanchez on August 29, 2011, 04:40:19 pm
Dead people didnt rise from the grave to vote in 2000 like in 1960
Yea, instead they allowed less live people to vote.
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Quote from: King on August 29, 2011, 05:02:24 pm
1888 was not stolen. Cleveland won the South virtually uncontested while Harrison won his states by smaller margins, thus Cleveland ended up with more PV.
1876 was a backroom political boss deal to let Hayes be President so the Democrats would get considerations in Congress and was a large part of the reason the electoral college in each state is now allocated directly on the popular vote winner instead of letting electors have a legitimate say in how they vote.
As for your thread topic, I would have to agree with above. William Jennings Bryan was basically a celebrity in his day. The only modern loser to hold true national name recognition at time of declaration of candidacy (and not be a VP like HHH, Gore or Mondale) was H. Ross Perot.
What about Bob Dole and John McCain? I wouldn't count them out(though Dole was VP pick for Ford).
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Quote from: King on August 29, 2011, 05:02:24 pm
1888 was not stolen. Cleveland won the South virtually uncontested while Harrison won his states by smaller margins, thus Cleveland ended up with more PV.
Harrison won his states because the Democrats political machines hated Cleveland so they rigged it for Harrison.
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Quote from: The Only Gay Eskimo on August 29, 2011, 06:24:14 pm
Quote from: King on August 29, 2011, 05:02:24 pm
1888 was not stolen. Cleveland won the South virtually uncontested while Harrison won his states by smaller margins, thus Cleveland ended up with more PV.
Harrison won his states because the Democrats political machines hated Cleveland so they rigged it for Harrison.
Pretty much this and why the Dems didn't nominated a gold democrat back in 1896.
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Henry Clay - who
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Both John Kerry and Al Gore were people who everyone thought would win, and they lost.
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Re: Who would you say are the most well known presidential loser to never make it
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How about John Quincy Adams. He didn't even receive the plurality of the electors.
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Quote from: Jack1475 on August 30, 2011, 12:20:11 am
Both John Kerry and Al Gore were people who everyone thought would win, and they lost.
Both John Kerry and Al Gore were neil bitting Bush in the polls but still weren't really the favorites in the election. Actually, Bush was beating Gore in most polls back in 2000 according to phk. Gore and Kerry weren't strong candidates to run for president and this is coming from a independent democrat that dispise Bush and co.
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on August 30, 2011, 01:02:52 am
How about John Quincy Adams. He didn't even receive the plurality of the electors.
He still won the presidency, so he doesnt fit the subject.
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Quote from: Arsenal on August 28, 2011, 06:20:17 pm
to the White House?
I might have to go with Al Gore but Ross Perot, Bob Dole, John McCain, Barry Goldwater, George McGovern, Stevenson and Thomas E Dewey are up there. Henry Clay but I'm not convinced any pre 20 century candidate would come to mind in most people since most people tend to be ignorant about subjects such as history and politics.
I think Henry Clay is more well known to the average person than Stevenson or Dewey, and for younger people Goldwater and McGovern arent that well known.
I'd go with Dukakis, Kerry and Gore from recent years. Burr and Clay from the past.
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Quote from: WillK on September 01, 2011, 11:21:26 am
Quote from: Arsenal on August 28, 2011, 06:20:17 pm
to the White House?
I might have to go with Al Gore but Ross Perot, Bob Dole, John McCain, Barry Goldwater, George McGovern, Stevenson and Thomas E Dewey are up there. Henry Clay but I'm not convinced any pre 20 century candidate would come to mind in most people since most people tend to be ignorant about subjects such as history and politics.
I think Henry Clay is more well known to the average person than Stevenson or Dewey, and for younger people Goldwater and McGovern arent that well known.
I'd go with Dukakis, Kerry and Gore from recent years. Burr and Clay from the past.
AARON BURR! Sorry if I'm acting like Boss Tweed but I think the Burr-Hamliton feud was one of the greatest of all time. Why Kerry and Dukakis? Not to say they are unknown but not two of the most widely known presidential candidates of the past.
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Re: Who would you say are the most well known presidential loser to never make it
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Lol@ people saying any name older than Al Gore.
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William Jennings Bryan.
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WillK
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Quote from: WillK on September 01, 2011, 11:21:26 am
Quote from: Arsenal on August 28, 2011, 06:20:17 pm
to the White House?
I might have to go with Al Gore but Ross Perot, Bob Dole, John McCain, Barry Goldwater, George McGovern, Stevenson and Thomas E Dewey are up there. Henry Clay but I'm not convinced any pre 20 century candidate would come to mind in most people since most people tend to be ignorant about subjects such as history and politics.
I think Henry Clay is more well known to the average person than Stevenson or Dewey, and for younger people Goldwater and McGovern arent that well known.
I'd go with Dukakis, Kerry and Gore from recent years. Burr and Clay from the past.
AARON BURR! Sorry if I'm acting like Boss Tweed but I think the Burr-Hamliton feud was one of the greatest of all time. Why Kerry and Dukakis? Not to say they are unknown but not two of the most widely known presidential candidates of the past.
Kerry losing to Bush doesnt seem that long ago, so i figured it would still be remembered.
Dukakis... I don't know, maybe its just that i'm from Massachusetts.
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What about good ol' George McClellan?
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What about good ol' George McClellan?
Probably not.
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William Jennings Bryan (although he's only well known for the Scopes trial, and not his failed campaigns), Al Gore.
I considered including Henry Clay but he's not as well known.
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