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« Reply #475 on: October 06, 2011, 10:13:00 pm »
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So, unless Liberals can take Davenport, they will have a minority, for me.

Which they didn't.  Called for NDP.
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« Reply #476 on: October 06, 2011, 10:13:48 pm »
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I don't any recount happening.

The tightest seat has a lead of 288, right now.

So, unless Liberals can take Davenport, they will have a minority, for me.
 Think they might be able to bribe any opposition members to cross the floor as this would give them a majority.  They only need to fine one and I am sure there is at least one or two opportunists in the opposition.

The problem is old MLAs, as we saw in the tight government in New Brunswick.
Some could threaten to go independant if they don't have funding/position/whatever.

Well, I noticed than Perth-Wellington or Nomtherberland-Quinte West would do the job, too. Less probable, since early is usually balanced between PC and Liberals.
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« Reply #477 on: October 06, 2011, 10:15:43 pm »
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So, unless Liberals can take Davenport, they will have a minority, for me.

Which they didn't.  Called for NDP.

Still two seats uncalled with PCs leading and Liberals second, though.  And four with Liberals leading, two each with the PCs and NDP in 2nd.
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« Reply #478 on: October 06, 2011, 10:16:10 pm »
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Smelling more and more like a Minority
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« Reply #479 on: October 06, 2011, 10:19:48 pm »
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Smelling more and more like a Minority

Could also change with a few by-elections, although those don't usually tend to favour governments.  Nonetheless a good ground organization can help pick them up, after all the federal Tories have gained seats in by-elections while never lost one and having a lower voter turnout makes ground organization even more important.  Also does anyone believe McGuinty can buy off any opposition members to cross the floor.  And what about the speaker.  I believe an opposition speaker would give McGuinty half the seats and the speaker in a tie vote by parliamentary tradition always votes whichever way keeps debate going, thus would vote to keep the government afloat.
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« Reply #480 on: October 06, 2011, 10:21:10 pm »
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I cant see the Tories or NDP allowing that. The NDP in particular would want to be able to exercise their newfound power.
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« Reply #481 on: October 06, 2011, 10:25:28 pm »
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Unlikely the NDP can find 500 extra votes for them over the Liberals in the last poll in Sudbury
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« Reply #482 on: October 06, 2011, 10:27:05 pm »
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Liberals up by 518 votes in Sudbury with one poll outstanding, but CBC still hasn't called it yet.  Is there any realistic chance of the NDP making up that margin in one poll?

Teddy already kind of answered my question I see.
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« Reply #483 on: October 06, 2011, 10:27:22 pm »
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The lead in Perth for the Tories is also too big IMO.

Same with YSW.

The other ridings *should* stay as they are.
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« Reply #484 on: October 06, 2011, 10:29:03 pm »
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With only one poll left, I would be surprised if the Liberals take Perth-Wellington as the gap is over 500 votes, so likes like a Tory pickup to me.  Niagara Falls and Northumberland-Quinte West too close too call.
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« Reply #485 on: October 06, 2011, 10:30:37 pm »
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Liberals now "leading" in Sudbury with 431 of 431 precincts in.  Wink
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« Reply #486 on: October 06, 2011, 10:31:29 pm »
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Liberals now "leading" in Sudbury with 431 of 431 precincts in.  Wink

Changed to elected now.  Final margin 501 votes.
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« Reply #487 on: October 06, 2011, 10:31:49 pm »
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Strange. The tightest seat has a lead of 440 votes.

No recount, apparently.
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« Reply #488 on: October 06, 2011, 10:34:20 pm »
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Comments on my crazy day tomorrow... but now... Victory. We won. Forward, Together.

Also, screw you Lister, Bloess, Monette, Galipeau, Citizen and Le Droit. Because we owned. Also, props to Naqvi in O-C, IMPRESSIVE!
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« Reply #489 on: October 06, 2011, 10:38:15 pm »
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Comments on my crazy day tomorrow... but now... Victory. We won. Forward, Together.

Also, screw you Lister, Bloess, Monette, Galipeau, Citizen and Le Droit. Because we owned. Also, props to Naqvi in O-C, IMPRESSIVE!
You won a minority Tongue
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« Reply #490 on: October 06, 2011, 10:40:54 pm »
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Comments on my crazy day tomorrow... but now... Victory. We won. Forward, Together.

Also, screw you Lister, Bloess, Monette, Galipeau, Citizen and Le Droit. Because we owned. Also, props to Naqvi in O-C, IMPRESSIVE!
You won a minority Tongue
  Not for sure, but still I don't think any party had an outstanding result, but no party had an absolute disaster either.  Not like the Liberals and Bloc federally, but nothing outstanding like the NDP or Conservatives federally.
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« Reply #491 on: October 06, 2011, 10:43:15 pm »
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CBC PROJECTS LIBERAL MINORITY
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« Reply #492 on: October 06, 2011, 10:43:25 pm »
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Kitchener Centre seems to have the greatest chance now of flipping from the current (Liberal) lead (over PC), based on the margin and the number of precincts outstanding.
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« Reply #493 on: October 06, 2011, 10:44:41 pm »
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Tories just took both Northumberland-Quinte West and Perth-Wellington, so no outstanding seats there.  Only three not declared, all which the Liberals are leading in, thus that means a majority is not possible at this point.
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« Reply #494 on: October 06, 2011, 10:46:49 pm »
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York South-Weston called for Liberals.  NDP will have 17 seats.  Remaining 2 seats between Grits and Tories.
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« Reply #495 on: October 06, 2011, 10:48:20 pm »
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Unless there is a defection from an opposition member, it looks like a minority.  Nonetheless, you only need two opposition members to abstain to pass any bill thus as long as the Liberals don't do anything really unpopular, they can almost rule like a majority.  Also even his brother David McGuinty has stated it was a minority.
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« Reply #496 on: October 06, 2011, 10:57:45 pm »
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It looks like Forum Research was pretty close to the mark in their final poll.
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« Reply #497 on: October 06, 2011, 11:03:37 pm »
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With one poll to go and a 300 vote lead, it looks like the Liberals will take Kitchener Centre.
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« Reply #498 on: October 06, 2011, 11:24:45 pm »
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Kitchener Centre was called for Liberals.
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« Reply #499 on: October 06, 2011, 11:31:39 pm »
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Not a bad night, all told. Some scary moments for the NDP when they seemed like they were going to lose Trinity-Spadina, but overall I think with a Liberal minority, and an expanded NDP caucus, the Liberals will be able to keep government out of PC hands and the NDP will get occasional concessions and policy victory through the Liberal's weakened strength in the legislature.

That's not a bad deal.

Some NDP supports on this forum have been a little spoiled lately. Tongue From either the NDP surge to Opposition in May and the comeback record-breaking victory in Manitoba. Purely for a result for the Ontario NDP, this is good.
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