Ontario 2011 (6th October)

[Hashemite]

One complaint to the friendly DRO: JUST COUNT THE BALLOTS ALREADY. DO NOT TAKE ONE HOUR TO PREPARE EVERYTHING WHILE ALL THE OTHER POLLS IN THE BUILDING ARE BEING COUNTED. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO GET TO THE ELECTION PARTY BEFORE THE ELECTION IS CALLED. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THEIR BABY DAUGHTER TO THE POLLING STATION AND WANT TO GET HOME AT A REASONABLE HOUR INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR YOU SLOW ASSES TO COUNT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VOTED ON YOUR LIST BEFORE COUNTING THE VOTES AND ENSURING ALL THE ENVELOPES ARE LABELED. ARGH!!!!!

Well, we started late and finished last, but it wasn't because our envelopes weren't labelled and our list not counted. It's rather because we had one idiot voter leave with a ballot, leaving us unbalanced. And we like to have accurate counts Certainly, however, some polling officials are lazy sh**ts.

What happens then, do you have to write up a report? These ladies weren't lazy, they were tedious.

You need to complete the multi-coloured reporting sheet, recount the ballots a bunch of times to make sure you really didn't leave out any, and if it still doesn't balance, when you bring the stuff back to the office, you go in a special room where some official counts the ballots in front of you to conclude the same thing and change the "0" on "electors who left the polling location with a ballot" line to "1". It's asinine, tedious, boring and extremely frustrating, but it's called the government for a reason.

[Senator MaxQue]

Oh, complaining about poll workers!

First, they made us vote on the other side of the city, for no reason.

My poll worker was afwul on federal election. There was an huge line for my voting precinct because the poll worker was more often in bathroom than at his desk.

Then, he wasn't finding findig my name on its list, which was ridicolous since I was seeing my name on. I had to explain him where my name was on the list.

After, he was very bad at folding the ballot after we voted. Me and my mother ballots almost opened, which is an obvious problem and a violation of the secrecy of vote.

[Californian Tony]

Wait Max, I thought you lived in Québec ?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

One complaint to the friendly DRO: JUST COUNT THE BALLOTS ALREADY. DO NOT TAKE ONE HOUR TO PREPARE EVERYTHING WHILE ALL THE OTHER POLLS IN THE BUILDING ARE BEING COUNTED. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO GET TO THE ELECTION PARTY BEFORE THE ELECTION IS CALLED. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THEIR BABY DAUGHTER TO THE POLLING STATION AND WANT TO GET HOME AT A REASONABLE HOUR INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR YOU SLOW ASSES TO COUNT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VOTED ON YOUR LIST BEFORE COUNTING THE VOTES AND ENSURING ALL THE ENVELOPES ARE LABELED. ARGH!!!!!

I find this post offensive actually, and if I thought the moderator of this forum was impartial, I'd report it.

You chose to be there. Democracy is democracy, and the DRO counts the ballots, not you, and he counts it the way he wants to.

[Senator MaxQue]

Wait Max, I thought you lived in Québec ?

I'm talking about May federal election.
I live in Outremont (Thomas Mulcair, NDP) and Abitibi-Baie James-Nunavik-Eeyou (Romeo Saganash, NDP) (both my MPs are running for NDP leadership.
Provincially, I live in Outremont (Raymond Bachand, angry man, which insult people and mafia enabler, Minister of Finance, PLQ) and Abitibi-Est (Agriculture Minister, PLQ).

[Hashemite]

So, the new PC MPP for Cambridge is the co-author of my public admin textbook (the other being my prof). And I think the Green candidate in Orleans was/is in my NorthAm relations class. And my NorthAm relations prof was the ONDP candidate in Ottawa-Vanier in 1995.

[Hatman]

One complaint to the friendly DRO: JUST COUNT THE BALLOTS ALREADY. DO NOT TAKE ONE HOUR TO PREPARE EVERYTHING WHILE ALL THE OTHER POLLS IN THE BUILDING ARE BEING COUNTED. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO GET TO THE ELECTION PARTY BEFORE THE ELECTION IS CALLED. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THEIR BABY DAUGHTER TO THE POLLING STATION AND WANT TO GET HOME AT A REASONABLE HOUR INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR YOU SLOW ASSES TO COUNT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VOTED ON YOUR LIST BEFORE COUNTING THE VOTES AND ENSURING ALL THE ENVELOPES ARE LABELED. ARGH!!!!!

I find this post offensive actually, and if I thought the moderator of this forum was impartial, I'd report it.

You chose to be there. Democracy is democracy, and the DRO counts the ballots, not you, and he counts it the way he wants to.

Well, both me and the female Liberal scrutineer were getting quite impatient. Had the counted the ballots on time, the Liberal girl wouldn't have been able to supervise the count, because she watched another poll as well. Worked out for her, I guess, but she was impatient too. And, she complained about how they were counting the ballots too. (I didn't really care).

Im sorry you took offence Teddy.

[The Head Beagle]

The four best Liberal results are St. Paul's (58.4), Don Valley West (58.3), Toronto Centre (54.9) and Eglinton-Lawrence (54.3).

I very much doubt that this list would be just from this region in any other federal or provincial election since 1867.

[Hatman]

Clearly wealthy people voted Liberal. Hudak ran on a populist platform as well, alienating urban elites.

[Hatman]

Final prediction will be as follows:
Liberal: 48
PC: 41
NDP: 18

Betting is illegal of course, but you have the Tories at 41 and I have them at 24-40. My average is therefore 32.

If we ever meet, and the Tories get over 37 seats, I'd like to buy you a coffee; would you like to return the favour of they get below 36?

BTW, did I win the bet, or did both of us lose?

[Sibboleth]

That's such a strange map in parts. Very, very odd election.

[adma]

From glimpsing results, it seems to me like the Libertarians fared better (well, in numbers of 1%+ candidates) than they have for over 20 years--dunno whether it's a "Ron Paul" effect...

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Remember the Freedom Party is another Libertarian party.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

From glimpsing results, it seems to me like the Libertarians fared better (well, in numbers of 1%+ candidates) than they have for over 20 years--dunno whether it's a "Ron Paul" effect...

I thought you were wrong (I was clicking though the map) until I hit the GTA. Wow! What the hell is going on there?

I'll do some numbers.

Final prediction will be as follows:
Liberal: 48
PC: 41
NDP: 18

Betting is illegal of course, but you have the Tories at 41 and I have them at 24-40. My average is therefore 32.

If we ever meet, and the Tories get over 37 seats, I'd like to buy you a coffee; would you like to return the favour of they get below 36?

BTW, did I win the bet, or did both of us lose?

What kind of coffee do you like?

[Hatman]

From glimpsing results, it seems to me like the Libertarians fared better (well, in numbers of 1%+ candidates) than they have for over 20 years--dunno whether it's a "Ron Paul" effect...

I thought you were wrong (I was clicking though the map) until I hit the GTA. Wow! What the hell is going on there?

I'll do some numbers.

Final prediction will be as follows:
Liberal: 48
PC: 41
NDP: 18

Betting is illegal of course, but you have the Tories at 41 and I have them at 24-40. My average is therefore 32.

If we ever meet, and the Tories get over 37 seats, I'd like to buy you a coffee; would you like to return the favour of they get below 36?

BTW, did I win the bet, or did both of us lose?

What kind of coffee do you like?

French Vanilla

You know, we must meet at some point. Perhaps when I'm in Toronto in March?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Hatman: sure

Results:
Toronto, York, East York, North York
Lib - 47.84%
NDP - 28.79%
PC - 19.49%
Grn - 2.53%
Lt - 0.42%
FP - 0.33%
Oth - 0.61%

Etobicoke
Lib - 50.51%
PC - 29.49%
NDP - 15.60%
Grn - 2.28%
Ltn - 0.57%
FP - 0.55%
Oth - 1.00%

Brampton, Mississauga
Lib - 44.69%
PC - 32.01%
NDP - 18.74%
Grn - 2.80%
Ltn - 0.49%
FP - 0.35%
Oth - 0.92%

Markham, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, King City, Whitchurck-Stoufville
Lib - 48.04%
PC - 37.36%
NDP - 10.12%
Grn - 2.43%
Ltn - 1.46%
FP - 0.07%
Oth - 0.53%

Scarborough, Pickering, Ajax
Lib - 46.60%
PC - 29.35%
NDP  - 20.64%
Grn - 2.02%
Ltn - 0.98%
FP - 0.26%
Oth - 0.15%

TOTALS
Lib - 47.18% - 674,925
PC - 27.54% - 393,983
NDP - 21.19% - 303,196
Grn - 2.46% - 35,256
Ltn - 0.71% - 10,134
FP - 0.30% - 4,260
Oth - 0.61% - 8,786

[Californian Tony]

So, the new PC MPP for Cambridge is the co-author of my public admin textbook (the other being my prof). And I think the Green candidate in Orleans was/is in my NorthAm relations class. And my NorthAm relations prof was the ONDP candidate in Ottawa-Vanier in 1995.

OMG ELITISZT INTELLEKTUALZ

[Vasall des Midas]

Majority missed by one seat? Lol.

[Sibboleth]

Who are the FP? Fascists?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Remember the Freedom Party is another Libertarian party.

[Smid]

2011 Ontario Provincial Election Map - Liberal Swing



2011 Ontario Provincial Election Map - PC Swing



2011 Ontario Provincial Election Map - NDP Swing



2011 Ontario Provincial Election Map - Greens Swing



As always, bigger versions in the Gallery.

[Holmes]

I'm back in Northern Ontario. No one here is happy with the results. But that's expected, Timmins-James Bay seems to have the biggest swing against the Liberals. And they only got <12% here? Pathetic.

From glimpsing results, it seems to me like the Libertarians fared better (well, in numbers of 1%+ candidates) than they have for over 20 years--dunno whether it's a "Ron Paul" effect...

I thought you were wrong (I was clicking though the map) until I hit the GTA. Wow! What the hell is going on there?

I'll do some numbers.

Final prediction will be as follows:
Liberal: 48
PC: 41
NDP: 18

Betting is illegal of course, but you have the Tories at 41 and I have them at 24-40. My average is therefore 32.

If we ever meet, and the Tories get over 37 seats, I'd like to buy you a coffee; would you like to return the favour of they get below 36?

BTW, did I win the bet, or did both of us lose?

What kind of coffee do you like?

French Vanilla

You know, we must meet at some point. Perhaps when I'm in Toronto in March?

Let's all meet up!

[adma]

Markham, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, King City, Whitchurck-Stoufville
Lib - 48.04%
PC - 37.36%
NDP - 10.12%
Grn - 2.43%
Ltn - 1.46%
FP - 0.07%
Oth - 0.53%

That NDP figure seems low. There weren't *that* many under-10% up there, were there?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Markham, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, King City, Whitchurck-Stoufville
Lib - 48.04%
PC - 37.36%
NDP - 10.12%
Grn - 2.43%
Ltn - 1.46%
FP - 0.07%
Oth - 0.53%

That NDP figure seems low. There weren't *that* many under-10% up there, were there?

I may have erred, but also remember that some ridings in the area are huge.

[Sibboleth]

The only sub-ten there was Thornhill, by the look of it.