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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« on: September 06, 2011, 01:25:40 AM »

So, there was an incumbent President who ran for re-election.
He got less than a third of the pledged votes in the primary, less than that the combined total of 2 governors who challenged him.
He won only around 60% of the primary states.

Clearly he went down in flames in the general election.

Oh wait, LBJ won in 1964 by 24 points. So much for that stupid meme.

All candidates who ran in primaries, except of Wallace, who merely tested the ground and didn't win any, were favorite-sons, supporting Johnson.

In California, for example, Johnson was not even on the ballot.

Only few states held primaries before 1972.

Popular vote plurality winner was technically Pat Brown, but he ran only in California. And yes, was Johnson supporter.

Before 1972, there were few primaries and favorite sons, which had minimal effect on nomination.

So HOW IS YOUR POST RELEVANT?
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 01:35:03 AM »

Wallace was hardly his only opponent. Heck, LBJ plus Wallace were only around half of the pledged primary votes. LBJ clearly did worse in the 1964 primaries than Carter did in the 1980 primaries.

Again, more nonsense.

Reynolds in Wisconsin, Porter in Ohio, Brewster in Maryland, Welsh in Indiana, Randolph in West Virginia, Brown in California were not LBJ opponents. LBJ did not run in any of these primaries, for Christ's sake! They were his allies and favorite-sons in each homestate.

Wallace did not compete against LBJ. Instead he only seriously challenged Welsh in Indiana and Brewster in Maryland.

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SO WHAT? You can't compare few primaries nationwide in 1964, during favorite-sons era, when primaries had little impact on nomination, with 1980, when every state had some form of primary/caucus.
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