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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: September 06, 2011, 10:33:42 AM »


^^^


Contemporary American uses of 'Liberal' and 'Conservative' are just not appropriate for anything other than contemporary American politics. And essentially no one was a 'Libertarian' in the now-current sense of the word until very, very recently.

Of course, you could always point it was the first of the bourgeois revolutions and all that, so, yeah, a important moment in the development of Liberalism as a political project (though nothing like as important as what happened soon after in France). But Liberalism as a political project has been dead for ninety seven years and most people now don't really understand what it actually was (hint: not what neck-bearded, mouth-breathing, World-of-Warcraft-playing, bitcoin-loving, basement-dwelling Libertarian wankers think it was) so, you know, not much use for this sort of thing.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 08:25:18 PM »


Of course, you could always point it was the first of the bourgeois revolutions and all that

After reading Eley/Blackbourn's The Peculiarity of German History, I can't read that statement without scare quotes.

Haha, quite. It's a reasonably useful shorthand when shorn of its traditional associations, but the wincing is absolutely understandable...
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