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Question: Can Obama win the electoral college if he loses the popular narrowly?
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yes
 
#2
yes, but unlikely
 
#3
no, not likely
 
#4
no, very unlikely
 
#5
I don't really know.
 
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« on: September 06, 2011, 05:02:16 PM »

By narrowly I mean by .52% (like 2000) or less, it is not likely that the election will be this close, but if it is, it could be 2000 in reverse.

Just so you know, my vote is "yes".
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 05:06:32 PM »

Any election can be 2000.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 05:14:56 PM »

In theory yes.  In practice, he'd be more likely to run up big totals in some states and lose others closely, leading to him winning the popular vote and losing in the Electoral College.

Neither possibility is likely.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 07:00:58 PM »

Here's how it happens:



The President is winning all but a few of the states that he wins by 5% or less, and he just barely wins CO, IA, NH, and PA. To be sure, he barely loses OH and VA, but he is losing a raft of states by margins of 15% or more. He wins Colorado under questionable circumstances after a statewide Democratic machine appears after about four years, giving a 'flavor' characteristic of 2000.  The President barely gets 272 electoral votes.

Republicans are probably taking back the Senate, though, by holding everything and picking up seats in Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, and Virginia while they lose the House.   
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 07:06:38 PM »

Here's how it happens:



The President is winning all but a few of the states that he wins by 5% or less, and he just barely wins CO, IA, NH, and PA. To be sure, he barely loses OH and VA, but he is losing a raft of states by margins of 15% or more. He wins Colorado under questionable circumstances after a statewide Democratic machine appears after about four years, giving a 'flavor' characteristic of 2000.  The President barely gets 272 electoral votes.

Republicans are probably taking back the Senate, though, by holding everything and picking up seats in Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, and Virginia while they lose the House.   
That map is certainly a possibility.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 07:32:49 PM »

Not the question I expected based upon the headline..

I was thinking that in 2000 Gore the (quasi) incumbent managed to lose despite 4% unemployment and a surplus budget...

The reverse in 2012 would be Obama managing to win with 9% unemployment and a $1.3 trillion deficit...
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 12:35:42 AM »

2004 almost was, so yes., it's possible.
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