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« on: September 10, 2011, 12:38:00 am »
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With the October election fast approaching, I am using the PPT slot for this.

Another Simultaneous Elections Amendment

1) Article I, Section 4, Clause 3 shall be amended to read as follows:
"Regular elections to the Senate shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the penultimate Friday of the month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the penultimate Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning, except in the month of December. Regular elections to the Senate in the month of December shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the second Friday of the month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the second Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning."
2) Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 shall be amended to read as follows:
Presidential elections shall be held in the months of February, June and October. Elections shall begin between 0000 Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the penultimate Friday of the election month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the penultimate Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2011, 03:25:46 pm »
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Are you not going to include bill status in the topic lines anymore, bgwah?


And here I thought you weren't on board with torturing the innactive Senators. Tongue

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 05:15:49 pm »
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     Looks like the fatal flaw in the last amendment was fixed. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 08:26:04 pm »
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Are you not going to include bill status in the topic lines anymore, bgwah?


And here I thought you weren't on board with torturing the innactive Senators. Tongue



It's not technically a bill even, but I thought I'd be consistent. I guess I'll add "Debating" to the title.

     Looks like the fatal flaw in the last amendment was fixed. Tongue

Does that mean you'll support it this time?
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 08:28:36 pm »
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Should have become law the first time it went through.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 08:37:07 pm »
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Should have become law the first time it went through.

No.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 08:44:30 pm »
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Should have become law the first time it went through.

No.
You don't think so?  You supported it the first time. There's a difference in Section 1 and there's no Section 3 on this bill (Section 3 on the other was excluding Holidays, fwiw), but other than that they look practically the same to me.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2011, 08:52:58 pm »
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Should have become law the first time it went through.

No.
You don't think so?  You supported it the first time. There's a difference in Section 1 and there's no Section 3 on this bill (Section 3 on the other was excluding Holidays, fwiw), but other than that they look practically the same to me.

Like everyone else in my region, I voted against the first amendment. Why are you saying I supported it?
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2011, 08:57:11 pm »
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Should have become law the first time it went through.

No.
You don't think so?  You supported it the first time. There's a difference in Section 1 and there's no Section 3 on this bill (Section 3 on the other was excluding Holidays, fwiw), but other than that they look practically the same to me.

Like everyone else in my region, I voted against the first amendment. Why are you saying I supported it?
Well, I didn't know how you voted in your own regional vote, I didn't look that into it. But when I was looking at the first debate thread, your only post in the thread was voting for it:

Aye

You must have just supported it then for the sake of letting the people have the final say. If that's the case, props to you. I usually support doing that unless it's an amendment I think is just completely wrong.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2011, 09:29:04 pm »
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The original version had a typo that wasn't noticed until it was sent to the regions, which is why most people voted against it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 09:32:36 pm »
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The original version had a typo that wasn't noticed until it was sent to the regions, which is why most people voted against it.
Ah, didn't notice that. Tongue Well then, that makes sense. Hopefully it can pass this time. Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2011, 10:25:04 pm »
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     Looks like the fatal flaw in the last amendment was fixed. Tongue

Does that mean you'll support it this time?

     Yes, unless I am missing something horrible in here. I don't really see the point in moving the election a week earlier in 1/7th of December instances, but it is perhaps the most inoffensive change conceivable. The benefit of passing this amendment cannot be understated.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2011, 10:29:02 pm »
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     Looks like the fatal flaw in the last amendment was fixed. Tongue

Does that mean you'll support it this time?

     Yes, unless I am missing something horrible in here. I don't really see the point in moving the election a week earlier in 1/7th of December instances, but it is perhaps the most inoffensive change conceivable. The benefit of passing this amendment cannot be understated.

I'm not sure what you mean regarding December. We already have it in the second weekend (and not second-to-last weekend). This is done to avoid having an election during the Holidays when nobody is here.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 04:07:03 am »
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     Looks like the fatal flaw in the last amendment was fixed. Tongue

Does that mean you'll support it this time?

     Yes, unless I am missing something horrible in here. I don't really see the point in moving the election a week earlier in 1/7th of December instances, but it is perhaps the most inoffensive change conceivable. The benefit of passing this amendment cannot be understated.

I'm not sure what you mean regarding December. We already have it in the second weekend (and not second-to-last weekend). This is done to avoid having an election during the Holidays when nobody is here.

     It's currently the second Thursday, but this would change it to the Thursday before the second Friday. In Decembers where the first day is a Friday (next one will be 2017), this amendment would move the election a week earlier. It is a very minor change, but still a change.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 11:40:17 am »
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It's supposed to be the second weekend. If anything the current Constitution is the mistake.
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2011, 03:17:33 pm »
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With no debate in the last 24 hours, I am bringing this to a final vote.

Another Simultaneous Elections Amendment

1) Article I, Section 4, Clause 3 shall be amended to read as follows:
"Regular elections to the Senate shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the penultimate Friday of the month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the penultimate Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning, except in the month of December. Regular elections to the Senate in the month of December shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the second Friday of the month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the second Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning."
2) Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 shall be amended to read as follows:
Presidential elections shall be held in the months of February, June and October. Elections shall begin between 0000 Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the penultimate Friday of the election month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the penultimate Friday itself, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.

Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.



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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2011, 03:19:51 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2011, 03:43:19 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2011, 04:45:48 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2011, 04:47:13 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2011, 06:06:21 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2011, 09:44:34 pm »
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This has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 10:43:10 pm »
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The amendment has passed 7-0. It is now presented to the regions.
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