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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: September 11, 2011, 12:28:15 PM »
Democrats:
Libertarian
Carter
Kennedy
Clinton
Obama
Johnson
Authoritarian

Republicans:
Libertarian
Ford
Eisenhower
Bush 41
Reagan
Nixon
Bush 43
Authoritarian
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 01:35:04 PM »
Democrats:
Libertarian
Carter
Kennedy
Johnson
Clinton
Obama
Authoritarian

Republicans:
Libertarian
Eisenhower
Ford
Reagan
Bush 41
Nixon
Bush 43
Authoritarian
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 11:54:28 PM »
Democrats:
Libertarian
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
Johnson
Obama
Authoritarian

Republicans:
Libertarian
Eisenhower
Ford
Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43
Nixon
Authoritarian
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 02:39:39 AM »
Democrats:
Libertarian
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
Johnson
Obama
Authoritarian

Republicans:
Libertarqian
Eisenhower
Ford
Reagan
Bush 41
Nixon
Bush 43
Authoritarian
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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 10:22:12 AM »
Why do you all think Obama is more authoritarian than Johnson?
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 12:02:48 PM »
Those categories really don't make much sense.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 10:23:05 PM »
Quote from: LargeAtmosphereRobert on September 12, 2011, 10:22:12 AM
Why do you all think Obama is more authoritarian than Johnson?
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 02:16:25 PM »

Yeah, in my personal list, I have him as the most authoritarian:

Democrats:
Libertarian
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
Obama
Johnson
Authoritarian

I'm not that sure on Republicans. I definitely have Ford at the top and Nixon and Dubya fighting it out for the bottom, but I'm not sure where Ike, Poppy, and Reagan go. Why's everyone have Ike as eitehr the most or second most Libertarian? Despite cutting military costs, he promoted the production of nuclear weapons, the interstate highway system, CIA-led coups of unfriendly dictators, and high taxation. Hardly things that I'd think any Libertarian would like, though they'd probably vote for him over Stevenson.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 02:58:49 PM »
Libertarian to authoritarian?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 03:00:53 PM »
I like Napoleon and Stegosaurus's lists.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 03:03:59 PM »
Quote from: LargeAtmosphereRobert on September 12, 2011, 10:22:12 AM
Why do you all think Obama is more authoritarian than Johnson?

Presumably because Johnson was the one who signed the Kennedy tax cuts.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2011, 06:20:04 PM »
Quote from: Amoralfag on September 14, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: LargeAtmosphereRobert on September 12, 2011, 10:22:12 AM
Why do you all think Obama is more authoritarian than Johnson?

Presumably because Johnson was the one who signed the Kennedy tax cuts.

Plus Johnson for all his spying and all that never openly supported 'extrajudicial killings' of american citizens, shutting down whole mediums (the internet), multiple undeclared wars, a 'civilian national security force,' or the sort of massive national security state we have now. Granted I'm sure he would if his predecessor had gotten away with as much or he had the technology to do something like DARPA. But this is of course, based on policies enacted not actual ideology.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 06:41:01 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_the_Dominican_Republic_(1965–1966)

Plus all sorts of other Cold War bombing campaigns that didn't involve "boots on the ground."

Also extrajudicial killings of US civilians... Cool
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2011, 06:42:57 PM »
I still wanna know why Ike is considered Libertarian.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2011, 08:07:22 PM »

Well, that's true but there was only one major war to speak of. Under Obama we really have 2-3 going on plus lesser bombing campaigns.

Note the use of the phrase openly. Wink
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2011, 09:33:34 PM »
Quote from: Liechtenstein. on September 14, 2011, 08:07:22 PM

Well, that's true but there was only one major war to speak of. Under Obama we really have 2-3 going on plus lesser bombing campaigns.

Note the use of the phrase openly. Wink

Obama inherited both of those wars.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »
We have more troops in Afghanistan than when he got in. And deciding to bomb Libya, Yemen, Somalia, etc. was all him.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2011, 09:08:06 PM »
That's because Afghanistan was pushed to the sidelines from 2003-2008.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2011, 09:47:38 AM »
Democrats:

Libertarian

Carter
Kennedy
Clinton
Obama
Johnson

Authoritarian

Republicans:

Libertarian

Ford
Eisenhower
Bush 41
Reagan
Nixon
Bush 43

Authoritarian
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2011, 10:12:47 AM »
Ford
Reagan
Bush41
Eisenhower
Bush43
Nixon

Carter
Kennedy
Clinton
Obama
Johnson
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2011, 05:30:57 PM »
I'm bumping this because I want to go back a little further:

DEM:

Libertarian

Carter
Kennedy
Clinton
Obama
Johnson
FDR
Wilson

Authoritarian

GOP:

Libertarian

Coolidge
Harding
Taft
Ford
Hoover
Eisenhower
Reagan
Bush 41
Nixon
Bush 43

Authoritarian
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2011, 10:39:57 PM »
GOP
LIBERTARIAN
Coolidge
Reagan/IKE
Harding
Ford/Hoover
Poppy Bush
W
Nixon
Tyranny

Dems
JFK
Clinton
Carter
LBJ
FDR
Wilson/Obama
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2011, 11:15:04 PM »
DEM:
Libertarian
Carter
Kennedy
Clinton
Obama
Johnson
FDR
Wilson
Authoritarian

GOP:
Libertarian
Coolidge
Harding
Ford
Hoover
Eisenhower
Taft
Reagan
Bush 43
Bush 41
Nixon
Authoritarian
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2011, 09:50:58 AM »
Because Libertarianism and Authoritarianism are both entirely objective concepts right?
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