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« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2011, 10:28:50 pm »
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County maps in Mississippi are almost always boring as hell. This one will likely be an exception.
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« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2011, 10:31:48 pm »
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County maps in Mississippi are almost always boring as hell. This one will likely be an exception.

Yes. Harry, what do you think will be the best counties against this?
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« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2011, 11:32:43 pm »
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Nothing out of the ordinary probably, though the university counties (Oktibbeha, Lafayette, Forrest) will probably have a stronger "no" than one might expect from looking at other MS maps.

I really have no idea how blacks are going to vote on this.  The NAACP is strongly opposed, but I don't really know how black preachers are approaching it.

Honestly, I really have no idea how anyone is going to vote on it, but gun to my head, I'm going to predict a 56-44 pass, which is frustrating.  However, conservatives were all predicting "yes" getting in 80s a few months ago, so that's saying something.  I don't think they anticipated nearly as much pro-life backlash.
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« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2011, 03:01:03 pm »
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PPP should have numbers out on this tonight.

Don't know how this is playing out, but it could narrowly pass. I think many Blacks will vote for it too.
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« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2011, 03:02:37 pm »
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Yeah, I'm not really sure where the main opposition is going to come from. Jackson, the coast, and the college counties? That doesn't seem like enough to me. The black areas will probably be more against it than the white areas, but I don't think it'll be that strong of a racial divide.
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« Reply #80 on: November 07, 2011, 12:20:22 am »
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Wow.

It only leads 45-44.
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« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2011, 12:22:09 am »
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I just jumped up and down with some dramatic fist waving.  I'm really pumped up right now.
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« Reply #82 on: November 07, 2011, 08:00:19 am »
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Everyone already knows they think about abortion, so anyone who's undecided about 26 realizes this is about way more than just abortion.

For the most part, if you're voting "yes," you're doing so as a knee-jerk anti-abortion vote, and you've already decided to do so.  I think the undecideds are going to break heavily toward "no," so if the 45-44-11 numbers are correct, I'm really optimistic.
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« Reply #83 on: November 07, 2011, 09:54:15 am »
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Searching for a link on that poll, and preferably crosstabs etc, and came up emptyhanded.

Found this internet poll instead

"How do you plan to vote on Proposition 26 (Personhood Amendment) in the November 8th election?
I will vote for Proposition 26.
   31.3%
I will vote against Proposition 26.
   61.4%
I have not decided yet.
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I will not vote for or against Proposition 26.
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on the website of Tate County's weekly rag. Make of that what thou wilt... but preferrably nothing much.
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« Reply #84 on: November 07, 2011, 09:58:26 am »
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Ah, found it now. Tender posted it over in the other thread.

"Men (48-42), whites (54-37), and Republicans (65-28) support the proposal. But women
(42-46), African Americans (26-59), Democrats (23-61), and independents (35-51)
oppose it. The good news for those opposed to the amendment is that 11% of voters are
undecided and their demographics are 58% women, 54% Democratic, and 42% black - those
still on the fence disproportionately belong to voter groups that oppose the
amendment."
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« Reply #85 on: November 07, 2011, 10:10:26 am »
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Margin of Error issue possibly, but also possibly not:

18 to 29 44% Yes 40% No
30 to 45 41% Yes 48% No
46 to 65 41% Yes 49% No
Over 65  53% Yes 37% No
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« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2011, 07:55:07 am »
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Today's the big day
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« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2011, 08:09:10 am »
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58 Bryant
42 DuPree

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Initiative 26
50.5 No
49.5 Yes

Yes, I'm going to go out on that limb.  The poll inspired me, I believe that most people voting yes do so as a knee jerk anti-abortion reaction. Thus, if a voter is still undecided, he/she is likely to vote no.
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« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2011, 11:00:42 pm »
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JACKSON, Miss. -- Mississippi voters shot down a referendum Tuesday that would have effectively banned abortions in the state, rejecting an initiative that said life begins at conception.

The so-called personhood initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of voters.
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« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2011, 11:01:21 pm »
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Big congratulations to Mississippi.
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« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2011, 11:04:08 pm »
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Harry, out of curiosity, if Referendum 26 had passed what would you have done?  Would that have been the proverbial 'straw that broke the camel's back' that finally persuaded you to move out of Mississippi?
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« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2011, 11:49:13 pm »
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The black counties came out quite heavily against this amendment.
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« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2011, 12:18:48 am »
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Harry, out of curiosity, if Referendum 26 had passed what would you have done?  Would that have been the proverbial 'straw that broke the camel's back' that finally persuaded you to move out of Mississippi?

No, I have a job, family, and 12-month apartment lease here, so I would have definitely stayed.
A few years down the road, though, if it had passed and been upheld (unlikely), I would've had to seriously consider going to another state to start a family, though, just because of the damage to standard safe OB/GYN practices 26 would have done.
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« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2011, 12:31:38 am »
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Do we have the official county results for this yet?
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« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2011, 12:33:35 am »
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The black counties came out quite heavily against this amendment.

Heavily black Jefferson County also appears to be the only county to (very narrowly) reject the amendment to prohibit eminent domain.
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« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2011, 12:40:05 am »
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The black counties came out quite heavily against this amendment.

Heavily black Jefferson County also appears to be the only county to (very narrowly) reject the amendment to prohibit eminent domain.

Which is ironic, since Haley Barbour was the high-profile opponent of 31.
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« Reply #96 on: November 09, 2011, 03:07:42 am »
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Congrats Harry.
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« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2011, 03:21:53 am »
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The abortion debate is officially over in this country with this one, guys. All remaining pro-lifers may now return to their caves.
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« Reply #98 on: November 09, 2011, 03:32:01 am »
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The abortion debate is officially over in this country with this one, guys. All remaining pro-lifers may now return to their caves.

Thank you for your valuable insight on the matter. I'll make sure to keep my cave-dwelling status in mind next time I want to have an opinion.
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« Reply #99 on: November 09, 2011, 03:37:36 am »
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The abortion debate is officially over in this country with this one, guys. All remaining pro-lifers may now return to their caves.

Well, the abortion debate itself will not be over, but of course the idea of the radicals that a clump of cells similar to a wart is equal to a human being ... Hopefully.
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