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Question: Which region will become the next US state in your opinion?
Washington D.C.
Puerto Rico
U.S. Virgin Islands
Guam
Northern Mariana Islands
American Samoa
other
there won't be any further states
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« on: September 18, 2011, 07:05:51 am »
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good question
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 07:12:01 am »
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Puerto Rico seems the most likely.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 07:54:17 am »
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Puerto Rico seems the most likely.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 01:04:43 pm »
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I kind of doubt it'll ever happen.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 01:38:23 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 01:48:45 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 01:51:01 pm »
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DC will never happen, and the rest are way too small.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 01:53:57 pm »
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Puerto Rico may become independent

I support independent United Virgin Islands, United Samoa and indepedent micronesian stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 12:44:13 am »
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If it ever happens it will be Puerto Rico.  I think we'll see some kind of new status for PR within the next decade or two.  Whether or not it ends up being statehood is still up in the air a bit.

I don't think DC will ever be an actual state.  There may be amendments in the future allowing it more independence and/or representation though.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 07:03:02 pm »
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If it ever happens it will be Puerto Rico.  I think we'll see some kind of new status for PR within the next decade or two.  Whether or not it ends up being statehood is still up in the air a bit.

I don't think DC will ever be an actual state.  There may be amendments in the future allowing it more independence and/or representation though.

It should be merged with Maryland.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 10:25:26 pm »
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If it ever happens it will be Puerto Rico.  I think we'll see some kind of new status for PR within the next decade or two.  Whether or not it ends up being statehood is still up in the air a bit.

I don't think DC will ever be an actual state.  There may be amendments in the future allowing it more independence and/or representation though.

It should be merged with Maryland.

That makes historic sense but I doubt there will ever be the combined political will within DC, Maryland, and Congress to actually make it happen.  Maryland will never want it back and DC has grown too accustomed to being its own entity.  

I think the most realistic "final scenario" at the federal level would be DC with a voting rep, two Senators, and 3 EVS.  Locally, DC would get out from under the thumb of Congress for most home rule issues while Congress would still maintain major control over security and aesthetics.  I don't think statehood will ever happen unless the portions of the great DC area are also included.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 10:26:35 pm »
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I think a split would be good for California.  IMO it's far too large and unwieldy to be a single political subdivision of a larger nation.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2011, 04:13:21 am »
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If it ever happens it will be Puerto Rico.  I think we'll see some kind of new status for PR within the next decade or two.  Whether or not it ends up being statehood is still up in the air a bit.

I don't think DC will ever be an actual state.  There may be amendments in the future allowing it more independence and/or representation though.

It should be merged with Maryland.

That makes historic sense but I doubt there will ever be the combined political will within DC, Maryland, and Congress to actually make it happen.  Maryland will never want it back and DC has grown too accustomed to being its own entity.  

I think the most realistic "final scenario" at the federal level would be DC with a voting rep, two Senators, and 3 EVS.  Locally, DC would get out from under the thumb of Congress for most home rule issues while Congress would still maintain major control over security and aesthetics.  I don't think statehood will ever happen unless the portions of the great DC area are also included.
Move the capital to the center of population (to catch up for the past, move it every 5 years), and build an assembly hall, dormitories for Congress and congressional employees.

Make the mall a national park, and let the District revert back to Maryland under the terms of its original cession.  If Maryland doesn't want it, let other States bid on it.

The president could continue to live in the White House.  Let the Supreme Court rotate among the circuit courts, and move the department HQ to other areas.

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Move the capital to the center of population (to catch up for the past, move it every 5 years), and build an assembly hall, dormitories for Congress and congressional employees.

That's actually a fantastic idea in terms of economic policy, as it would generate massive spending.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2011, 04:24:53 am »
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I would be okay with this. Cut the water hogs and Birchers off from the good part of the state.
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Move the capital to the center of population (to catch up for the past, move it every 5 years), and build an assembly hall, dormitories for Congress and congressional employees.

That's actually a fantastic idea in terms of economic policy, as it would generate massive spending.

The original idea was to build the capital up around Harper's Ferry since it would encourage development of the Potomac-Ohio transportation link.  A 10-mile square district would have included parts of Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania.

I think Harrisburg was the same idea to develop the Susquehanna.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 02:27:31 pm »
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The vast majority of you voted for Puerto Rico.
So, how many electoral votes would would it be allocated?
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2011, 05:04:37 pm »

The vast majority of you voted for Puerto Rico.
So, how many electoral votes would would it be allocated?

The population of PR is slightly less than OK. It should get 5 Reps and 7 EV if it were a state.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2011, 06:06:42 pm »
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House seats would have been as following over the years (+2 for EVs):

1900   4.768351431
1910   5.209999071
1920   5.268447854
1930   5.383733859
1940   6.066572606
1950   6.263369288
1960   5.625784904
1970   5.728980546
1980   6.052372805
1990   6.074116851
2000   5.808443547
2010   5.186774193

So it would have lost a seat!
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 04:45:04 am »
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Make that California Island.
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If it ever happens it will be Puerto Rico.  I think we'll see some kind of new status for PR within the next decade or two.  Whether or not it ends up being statehood is still up in the air a bit.

I don't think DC will ever be an actual state.  There may be amendments in the future allowing it more independence and/or representation though.

It should be merged with Maryland.
I think the most realistic "final scenario" at the federal level would be DC with a voting rep, two Senators, and 3 EVS.  Locally, DC would get out from under the thumb of Congress for most home rule issues while Congress would still maintain major control over security and aesthetics.  I don't think statehood will ever happen unless the portions of the great DC area are also included.

The Republicans will never agree to that, particularly the part about the two Senators.

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 05:45:57 am »
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The vast majority of you voted for Puerto Rico.
So, how many electoral votes would would it be allocated?

The population of PR is slightly less than OK. It should get 5 Reps and 7 EV if it were a state.

That means the number of representatives would rise by 5 seats?
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