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A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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Duke David
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A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 07:44:49 am »
The items listed above are the ten most "successful" anti-bellwether states and regions.
Click on those three states/regions whose inhabitants (or state legislature, respectively) voted for the "wrong" candidate most frequently.
PS: What matters is not the popular vote, but the eventually winning candidate.
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Answer:
#49 Mississippi (52,2%)
#50 Alabama (51,1%)
#51 D.C. (41,7%)
Thanks to everyone who cast their vote.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 07:59:39 am »
If you take the Presidential elections from 1964 on, the District of Columbia missed the most.
Alabama, Georgia, Hawaii and Mississippi are tied for second.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 08:02:19 am »
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on September 22, 2011, 07:59:39 am
If you take the Presidential elections from 1964 on, the District of Columbia missed the most.
Alabama, Georgia, Hawaii and Mississippi are tied for second.
Nope. I take
all
elections since 1789.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 08:15:52 am »
Quote from: Atheist2006 on September 22, 2011, 08:02:19 am
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on September 22, 2011, 07:59:39 am
If you take the Presidential elections from 1964 on, the District of Columbia missed the most.
Alabama, Georgia, Hawaii and Mississippi are tied for second.
Nope. I take
all
elections since 1789.
Well, the District of Columbia couldn't participate until 1964, while Alaska and Hawaii couldn't participate until 1960.
So, counting elections prior to eligibility really skews results.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 08:21:28 am »
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on September 22, 2011, 08:15:52 am
Well, the District of Columbia couldn't participate until 1964, while Hawaii couldn't participate until 1960
Why don't you just click on the right answer
s
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CARLHAYDEN
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 08:35:08 am »
Perhaps you can advise me as to which of the selections you listed is a "region."
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 08:42:46 am »
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on September 22, 2011, 08:35:08 am
Perhaps you can advise me as to which of the selections you listed is a "region."
There are 9 states and 1 region. But I don't tell you which.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 12:23:45 pm »
I'd say DC, MS and SC.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 12:35:36 pm »
Quote from: Antonio V on September 22, 2011, 12:23:45 pm
I'd say DC, MS and SC.
I'll give you a hint:
At least one of your suggestions is wrong.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 12:37:18 pm »
Quote from: Atheist2006 on September 22, 2011, 12:35:36 pm
Quote from: Antonio V on September 22, 2011, 12:23:45 pm
I'd say DC, MS and SC.
I'll give you a hint:
At least one of your suggestions is wrong.
I was almost sure of that. Getting all three right is almost impossible.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 12:42:55 pm »
Quote from: Antonio V on September 22, 2011, 12:37:18 pm
I was almost sure of that. Getting all three right is almost impossible.
I know what you mean.
It took me much effort and time to ascertain the truth.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 05:49:19 pm »
Is it really that difficult? I didn't check, but I'm willing to guess that DC, HI, and AK are the answers.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 06:33:30 pm »
Quote from: Averroës Nix on September 22, 2011, 05:49:19 pm
Is it really that difficult? I didn't check, but I'm willing to guess that DC, HI, and AK are the answers.
At least one answer is correct, Averroës Nix.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 22, 2011, 06:35:44 pm »
LOL
The bars are pretty evenly spread.
Seems to be a hard question.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 23, 2011, 02:47:21 pm »
… Alabama, Mississippi, and Vermont.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 23, 2011, 03:19:25 pm »
In terms of percentages, it's D.C., followed by Alabama, followed by Mississippi.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 23, 2011, 03:21:25 pm »
Quote from: DS0816 on September 23, 2011, 02:47:21 pm
… Alabama, Mississippi, and Vermont.
The Vermonters voted relatively often for the losing candidate, but there are at least 10 states that came off worse.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 23, 2011, 03:27:23 pm »
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on September 22, 2011, 08:15:52 am
Well, the District of Columbia couldn't participate until 1964, while Alaska and Hawaii couldn't participate until 1960.
So, counting elections prior to eligibility really skews results.
I hope you know that my results are based on percentages.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 23, 2011, 07:24:44 pm »
Alabama, Mississippi and Washington DC.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 24, 2011, 12:58:53 pm »
Quote from: Atheist2006 on September 23, 2011, 03:27:23 pm
I hope you know that my results are based on percentages.
Didn't! I'll second Thomas D's guess of AL, MS, and DC.
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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September 27, 2011, 01:17:35 pm »
Quote from: Thomas D on September 23, 2011, 07:24:44 pm
Alabama, Mississippi and Washington DC.
Who knows?
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Duke David
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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October 15, 2011, 09:22:37 pm »
I'm going to announce the solution of this quiz in two weeks.
Till then good guessing!
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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October 15, 2011, 09:26:16 pm »
Canada!
Seriously, Alabama, Mississippi, and Vermont
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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October 15, 2011, 09:40:31 pm »
Quote from: Conservatarian wants to Free the weed! on October 15, 2011, 09:26:16 pm
Canada!
Seriously, Alabama, Mississippi, and Vermont
Vermont ranks #40 in the bellwether states list.
And btw, it isn't listed above.
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Re: A little quiz: "anti-bellwether" states?
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October 15, 2011, 09:43:39 pm »
A long time ago I calculated correlation coefficients for how closely correlated the changes in the Democratic % nationwide are correlated to changes in the % Democrat for each state.
Of course this is a tad more precise as bellwether since its a "bellwether" to actual changes in movements in the voting habits of the state.
Alabama and Mississippi have opposite correlations largely due to 1964 which is weighing down a lot of the Southern states.
This is 1960 to present.
PA 0.966067054
IN 0.95341152
NM 0.949044516
MO 0.946832887
NJ 0.942439247
MI 0.934318638
MD 0.933170349
CO 0.927456992
NY 0.923773398
CT 0.919558356
NE 0.911658126
DE 0.910226962
VA 0.910198852
NH 0.905413893
WA 0.904983944
KS 0.901958647
WI 0.901263071
NV 0.900218139
OR 0.89605574
AZ 0.894099031
RI 0.87412351
IL 0.872103429
HI 0.861837923
CA 0.860305372
FL 0.857749611
TX 0.842579042
OK 0.837252298
ID 0.833592726
IA 0.828201135
ME 0.824423507
OH 0.81955975
VT 0.809179288
MA 0.796208464
MN 0.794198757
NC 0.779418497
MT 0.77638117
UT 0.768767821
KY 0.742380603
AK 0.705862352
WV 0.684463347
WY 0.674054027
SD 0.641501564
TN 0.631647735
AR 0.556386947
SC 0.476540412
LA 0.455813242
GA 0.433122723
MS -0.128090695
AL -0.250714962
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