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« on: September 23, 2011, 06:33:48 PM »

Neutrinos are weird in other ways, and still not very well understood.  I'm no physicist, but one possible way out of this might be that for neutrinos, their mass values might not be represented by a real scalar, which surely would have all sorts of screwy effects.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 06:28:14 PM »

Dangit!  Some error in the experiment was always the most likely reason, but we could hope.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 07:22:22 PM »

Dangit!  Some error in the experiment was always the most likely reason, but we could hope.

hope for what, How the World Works by Scientists Who Demand to be Worshipped, Version: 49917912372?

Science is always more interesting when we discover that that our view of how the world works is shown by more precise data to be insufficient, for it opens up new fields of inquiry.  Take for example Newtonian mechanics and Einstein's relativity.  At the energies and speeds that could be measured in Newton's day, the two are indistinguishable.  It wasn't until we began to be able to study high-energy physics that we were able to realize that Newtonian mechanics was insufficient. Until that was the case, there was no reason for us to even consider alternatives to a theory that fit all the known facts.

If Einstein had been born a century earlier, he would never have come up with relativity.  It was an area of inquiry he would never had a reason to investigate.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 01:29:32 AM »

1) I'm a big fan of experimental physics

2) I thought Einstein figured out that Newton was wrong by use only thought experiments

Einstein used thought experiments to come up with solutions to the discrepancies between how Newton explained the universe and what experimental results that were being done by others were showing once we started investigating atomic and subatomic particles.  Without those discrepancies, he would have had no reason to come up with relativity, not for his work on the photoelectric effect that he won his Nobel Prize for.
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