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KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Wow, he could even hit 60% ...
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Why is he doing worst in Eastern Kentucky? Isn't that one of the places of most strength for Kentucky Dems?
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
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Quote from: TexasDemocrat on October 02, 2011, 07:40:40 am
Why is he doing worst in Eastern Kentucky? Isn't that one of the places of most strength for Kentucky Dems?
Yeah, but it's possible that the traditionally Republican areas not so far away are being included in the East for polling purposes.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: TexasDemocrat on October 02, 2011, 07:40:40 am
Why is he doing worst in Eastern Kentucky? Isn't that one of the places of most strength for Kentucky Dems?
Eastern Kentucky includes both the populist coal areas which could very well break 80% for him and places like the Cincinnati metro area which will be relatively bad for him.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:52:21 am
Quote from: TexasDemocrat on October 02, 2011, 07:40:40 am
Why is he doing worst in Eastern Kentucky? Isn't that one of the places of most strength for Kentucky Dems?
Eastern Kentucky includes both the populist coal areas which could very well break 80% for him and places like the Cincinnati metro area which will be relatively bad for him.
Do you think they included the redder parts of Hal Rogers' district and South-Central Kentucky, which is heavily republican and Williams' home base?
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:52:21 am
Quote from: TexasDemocrat on October 02, 2011, 07:40:40 am
Why is he doing worst in Eastern Kentucky? Isn't that one of the places of most strength for Kentucky Dems?
Eastern Kentucky includes both the populist coal areas which could very well break 80% for him and places like the Cincinnati metro area which will be relatively bad for him.
I think the (uber GOP) Cinci burbs are consdered North Central KY. Though he's doing surprisingly well there too. I'm very surprised at how well Beshear is doing in Western KY compared to the rest of the state too.
This all might be subject to high subsample MoE, though.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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It's more likely that it includes the south-southeastern parts of the state (i.e. western KY-05 and the little tail of KY-01). If you draw an imaginary line through Louisville to divide the state into western and eastern halves, it would include the areas where Beshear didn't do well in 2007:
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on October 02, 2011, 08:23:33 pm
It's more likely that it includes the south-southeastern parts of the state (i.e. western KY-05 and the little tail of KY-01). If you draw an imaginary line through Louisville to divide the state into western and eastern halves, it would include the areas where Beshear didn't do well in 2007:
With these kinds of numbers, I can definitely see Beshear over 60 and taking 100+ counties...at this point I would be surprised if Williams won more than 12-15 counties...
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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So at this rate the map could end up like this?
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=21&year=1999&f=0&off=5
Maybe Galbraith just portends Dem landslides?
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
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I think a strategy of the Beshear campaign is to only have debates with Williams and all of the minor party candidates. This as opposed to a one on one debate with Williams. This is a beneficiary for the Beshear campaign because it divides the anti Beshear vote and does not give it all to Williams.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
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Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
Sure... building a creationist theme park I'm sure would really go down well with Progressives in other states.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: redcommander on October 03, 2011, 05:30:17 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 07:22:47 am
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
Sure... building a creationist theme park I'm sure would really go down well with Progressives in other states.
I'm a progressive in another state. I'm fine with it.
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FYI, here's SUSA's regional breakdowns:
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 05:53:43 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 03, 2011, 05:30:17 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 07:22:47 am
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
Sure... building a creationist theme park I'm sure would really go down well with Progressives in other states.
I'm a progressive in another state. I'm fine with it.
I'm a progressive from New York, and if Kentucky wants to build a creationist theme park that creates jobs, I say go for it! It probably wouldn't be a place I would take my kids or go on vacation, but if people enjoy it, let them enjoy it.
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Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 05:53:43 pm
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Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 07:22:47 am
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Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
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Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
Sure... building a creationist theme park I'm sure would really go down well with Progressives in other states.
I'm a progressive in another state. I'm fine with it.
I'm a progressive from New York, and if Kentucky wants to build a creationist theme park that creates jobs, I say go for it! It probably wouldn't be a place I would take my kids or go on vacation, but if people enjoy it, let them enjoy it.
Besides, am I correct in saying no government funds wefre used to build the park? Beashear merely trumpted it a t ribbon cutting ceremony. BFD
Mybe he could run against McConnell in 14, or Paul in 16?
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Quote from: Badger on October 08, 2011, 12:17:03 pm
Quote from: HST1948 on October 04, 2011, 05:21:00 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 05:53:43 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 03, 2011, 05:30:17 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 07:22:47 am
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
Sure... building a creationist theme park I'm sure would really go down well with Progressives in other states.
I'm a progressive in another state. I'm fine with it.
I'm a progressive from New York, and if Kentucky wants to build a creationist theme park that creates jobs, I say go for it! It probably wouldn't be a place I would take my kids or go on vacation, but if people enjoy it, let them enjoy it.
Besides, am I correct in saying no government funds wefre used to build the park? Beashear merely trumpted it a t ribbon cutting ceremony. BFD
Mybe he could run against McConnell in 14, or Paul in 16?
He could win, but he'd be at least 70; not a good age for a freshman senator. The Kentucky Democratic Party will have younger talent by then as well such as Jack Conway, Adam Edelen, and Alison Grimes. The popular outgoing auditor, Crit Luallen, is also a possibility.
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Re: KY: Survey USA: Gov. Beshear's lead still increasing
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Quote from: TexasDemocrat on October 08, 2011, 04:11:09 pm
Quote from: Badger on October 08, 2011, 12:17:03 pm
Quote from: HST1948 on October 04, 2011, 05:21:00 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 05:53:43 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 03, 2011, 05:30:17 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 03, 2011, 07:22:47 am
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 11:52:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Quote from: Meeker on October 02, 2011, 10:16:06 pm
Quote from: redcommander on October 02, 2011, 10:05:44 pm
Quote from: Hubert H. Humphrey Revivalist on October 02, 2011, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: HenryH on October 02, 2011, 09:15:19 am
I don't know much about the politics of Kentucky, so could somebody explain what sort of Democrat Beshear is, and why he is so popular?
He's a typical Appalachian Democrat--moderate to conservative with a populist streak. To give you an idea,
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/12/02/1548034/creation-museum-to-get-wooden.html
So in other words a DINO who should have been primaried a long time ago.
Why would we want to primary a man who supported a project that brought jobs to Kentucky?
Come to that, why would we want to primary a
Democrat who can win statewide in Kentucky?
Because he's not a Democrat in line with most of the party's positions.
Creating jobs is most certainly in line with the Democratic party's positions.
Sure... building a creationist theme park I'm sure would really go down well with Progressives in other states.
I'm a progressive in another state. I'm fine with it.
I'm a progressive from New York, and if Kentucky wants to build a creationist theme park that creates jobs, I say go for it! It probably wouldn't be a place I would take my kids or go on vacation, but if people enjoy it, let them enjoy it.
Besides, am I correct in saying no government funds wefre used to build the park? Beashear merely trumpted it a t ribbon cutting ceremony. BFD
Mybe he could run against McConnell in 14, or Paul in 16?
He could win, but he'd be at least 70; not a good age for a freshman senator. The Kentucky Democratic Party will have younger talent by then as well such as Jack Conway, Adam Edelen, and Alison Grimes. The popular outgoing auditor, Crit Luallen, is also a possibility.
I didn't realize Beashear was nearly that old. Good call.
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