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Question: who will win the 2016 Democratic nomination?
Mark Warner   -5 (7.5%)
Andrew Cuomo   -25 (37.3%)
Cory Booker   -0 (0%)
Hillary Clinton   -12 (17.9%)
Al Gore   -0 (0%)
Barack Obama   -0 (0%)
Tim Kaine   -0 (0%)
Russ Feingold   -2 (3%)
Bernie Sanders   -0 (0%)
Joe Biden   -1 (1.5%)
Alexi Giannoulias   -0 (0%)
Gavin Newsom   -2 (3%)
Jon Tester   -0 (0%)
Brian Schweitzer   -10 (14.9%)
Martin O'Malley   -3 (4.5%)
Bob Casey, Jr.   -0 (0%)
Evan Bayh   -1 (1.5%)
Claire McCaskill   -1 (1.5%)
Dennis Kucinich   -0 (0%)
Michelle Obama   -0 (0%)
other/none   -5 (7.5%)
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« on: October 04, 2011, 08:41:53 am »
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who will win the 2016 Democratic nomination?
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 08:59:13 am »
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Bob Casey, Jr. would never, ever, ever run for President.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 09:40:13 am »
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I see no way Alexi Giannoulias can be stopped.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011, 11:17:14 am »
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Hell if I know.

How many people were talking about Herman Cain in 2007?
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 12:27:50 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2011, 02:21:22 pm »
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Hillary; assuming she runs. If she and Biden stay out, Manchin, Bayh, Schweitzer, Booker, Newsom, Cuomo, and Kaine will run.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 03:37:35 pm »
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Warner wins Iowa, Cuomo wins NH, Warner wins SC - warner wins the nomination with cuomo as VP.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 04:23:40 pm »
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No Kirsten Gillibrand? I would like either her or Schweitzer.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 06:49:00 pm »
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A centrist like Bayh might be able to pull it off...

Still, I think Bayh is a serious contender to replace Biden on the VP spot should things get worse.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2011, 07:24:31 pm »
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Cuomo wants it, and regardless of whether or not Obama is re-elected or not, I believe he will run.

I see no way Alexi Giannoulias can be stopped.

Other than the fact that he doesn't currently hold elective office and was merely a Treasurer? Wink
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2011, 07:31:05 pm »
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I'm sorry, but how the hell do you manage to list that many Democrats and not list Elizabeth Warren? When she beats Brown she's easily among the top three looking at 2016 from this far out.

I'll add to that anyone who thinks it's going to be Mark Warner either hasn't heard Mark Warner speak or knows sh**t.

His voice sounds like absolute crap and he has no charisma.


I don't know why everyone here thinks the Democrats are destined to nominate someone to the right of Obama I mean the demographics are only getting more progressive friendly add to that the fact that when parties are out of power for a short period of time they tend to nominate ideologues and move more to the center with ever consecutive loss.

On the other hand if Obama wins .... well the VP's normally run so their really isn't enough data to trend out that, but again the demo's are moving leftward other than Hillary because of her name or Cuomo because he's a popular Governor of a huge state that did something very socially progressive I don't see how any other candidates to the right of Obama have a chance.

Hillary
Warren (Assuming win)
Feingold
Cuomo

Is how I'd rank them right now and I think Cuomo would be easy to take out with his shady associations (Koch Brothers) and his perceived corporate friendliness with the Democratic base becoming more and more hostile to corporations by the minute.






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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2011, 10:56:29 pm »
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A centrist like Bayh might be able to pull it off...

Still, I think Bayh is a serious contender to replace Biden on the VP spot should things get worse.

I think Bayh missed his chance, but he should at least try in 2016 and get his voice out there.  But he's not exciting at all and will be a boring bye bye. 

I would like to see Obama shake things up on the ticket, if anything I think a female deserves to be VP, a competent female from the Senate.  Its time, and its clear that Obama is going to lose a lot of white males, so his only shot is keeping as many Female voters as possible.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2011, 10:59:07 pm »
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I'm sorry, but how the hell do you manage to list that many Democrats and not list Elizabeth Warren? When she beats Brown she's easily among the top three looking at 2016 from this far out.

I'll add to that anyone who thinks it's going to be Mark Warner either hasn't heard Mark Warner speak or knows sh**t.

His voice sounds like absolute crap and he has no charisma.


I don't know why everyone here thinks the Democrats are destined to nominate someone to the right of Obama I mean the demographics are only getting more progressive friendly add to that the fact that when parties are out of power for a short period of time they tend to nominate ideologues and move more to the center with ever consecutive loss.

On the other hand if Obama wins .... well the VP's normally run so their really isn't enough data to trend out that, but again the demo's are moving leftward other than Hillary because of her name or Cuomo because he's a popular Governor of a huge state that did something very socially progressive I don't see how any other candidates to the right of Obama have a chance.

Hillary
Warren (Assuming win)
Feingold
Cuomo

Is how I'd rank them right now and I think Cuomo would be easy to take out with his shady associations (Koch Brothers) and his perceived corporate friendliness with the Democratic base becoming more and more hostile to corporations by the minute.








Warner may be a classic VP selection, as an uncharasmatic straight man like Al Gore, but he def wants to be president some day and will run. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 10:07:34 am »
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How many people were talking about Herman Cain in 2007?

Besides Mike Naso Sr. and jmf, who is talking about him now?
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 03:29:06 pm »
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Hopefully Casey.
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2011, 02:31:49 pm »
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If Hillary declines to run, then in my eyes the race is wide open.
Here are my top ten candidates for the Democratic nomination in 2016; (in no real order.)

Hillary Clinton,
Brian Schweitzer,
Martin O'Malley,
Kathleen Sebelius,
Russ Feingold,
Kirsten Gillibrand,
Deval Patrick,
John Hickenlooper,
Gary Locke,
Mike Beebe

I think any of these folks could give us a real good primary season. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2011, 02:47:46 pm »
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I hope to God it isn't that right-winger Cuomo.
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2011, 03:27:27 pm »
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My money's on Cuomo. He's got massive appeal with independents.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2011, 03:58:25 pm »
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If we nominate Cuomo in 2016, then we deserve to lose (and we probably will anyway, due to Obama fatigue after eight years).  I can only hope we get a better nominee in 2020.  
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2011, 02:13:28 am »
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If Obama is still president in 2016, I think the best bet would be nominate a Governor.
Maybe Schweitzer or O'Malley perhaps? I think Brian Schweitzer backed up with someone like Kathleen Sebelius or Amy Klobuchar could be a really interesting ticket. I think it could also be pretty interesting to have Elizabeth Warren as the vp candidate as well. A rural Governor with a strong female with some Washington experience could be a pretty strong ticket after 8 years of Obama/Biden. Any thoughts?
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If Obama is still president in 2016, I think the best bet would be nominate a Governor.
Maybe Schweitzer or O'Malley perhaps? I think Brian Schweitzer backed up with someone like Kathleen Sebelius or Amy Klobuchar could be a really interesting ticket. I think it could also be pretty interesting to have Elizabeth Warren as the vp candidate as well. A rural Governor with a strong female with some Washington experience could be a pretty strong ticket after 8 years of Obama/Biden. Any thoughts?

Schweitzer/McCaskill?
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 07:54:20 pm »
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Hillary
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 10:11:50 pm »
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Hillary

Only if she decides to run. If she changes her mind (given her 50,000 statements that SoS is her career topper, unlikely), she wins the nomination and the presidency.
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 10:28:21 pm »
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How old will Hillary be in 2016?
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How old will Hillary be in 2016?

By election day, she'll be 69 -same age as Ronald Reagan on election day in 1980.  
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