who will win the 2016 Democratic nomination?

[qochimodo]

I'm sorry, but how the hell do you manage to list that many Democrats and not list Elizabeth Warren? When she beats Brown she's easily among the top three looking at 2016 from this far out.

I'll add to that anyone who thinks it's going to be Mark Warner either hasn't heard Mark Warner speak or knows sh**t.

His voice sounds like absolute crap and he has no charisma.


I don't know why everyone here thinks the Democrats are destined to nominate someone to the right of Obama I mean the demographics are only getting more progressive friendly add to that the fact that when parties are out of power for a short period of time they tend to nominate ideologues and move more to the center with ever consecutive loss.

On the other hand if Obama wins .... well the VP's normally run so their really isn't enough data to trend out that, but again the demo's are moving leftward other than Hillary because of her name or Cuomo because he's a popular Governor of a huge state that did something very socially progressive I don't see how any other candidates to the right of Obama have a chance.

Hillary
Warren (Assuming win)
Feingold
Cuomo

Is how I'd rank them right now and I think Cuomo would be easy to take out with his shady associations (Koch Brothers) and his perceived corporate friendliness with the Democratic base becoming more and more hostile to corporations by the minute.