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« on: October 07, 2011, 09:50:10 PM »
« edited: October 19, 2011, 11:31:26 PM by bgwah »

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 01:02:10 AM »

Isn't medical marijuana 'restricted' anyway?


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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 04:20:58 PM »

We used the emergency slot for this?
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2011, 04:25:59 PM »


This has a general slot.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2011, 08:42:36 PM »

Can someone bring up already existing marijuana-related laws, so we can be sure about our ground?
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 02:30:33 AM »

Debate seems to have ceased on this. I'm bringing it to a final vote. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 02:33:07 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 05:18:15 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 08:46:06 AM »

I'm not thrilled that this Bill would permit 'self-medication' ... I support medically supervised marijuana use for people suffering from these conditions... but I would prefer that it were clear that it remain the medical practitioner's call and no restrictions should be in place... assumed they have medical clearance.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 09:04:28 AM »
« Edited: October 11, 2011, 09:15:31 AM by Assemblyman of the Mideast ZuWo »

From the gallery:

I advise the honorable Senators not to pass this bill. Leave it to the regions how to deal with medical (and for that matter recreational) marijuana use.

Thank you.

EDIT: Art. 1, Section 6,7 of the Atlasian Constitution says this:

No Law requiring any action to be taken or to be not taken by a Region shall be passed, except to preserve the rights of the Senate or of the People enumerated under the Constitution.

Maybe the bill in question violates this part of the Constitution, as it clearly requires the Atlasian regions not to take a particular action (=restricting medical marijuana use)?
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 12:33:56 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 02:23:47 PM »

The bill is fully constitutional, merely guaranteeing medicine to be available in accordance with the standards set in the ANHA.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 09:36:05 PM »

I think marijuana use should be fully legalized and regulated, but I will vote aye on this bill.

If I am elected president, I'd urge the senate to legalize marijuana usage.  Your right to consume a soft drug in a way that does not harm others should be protected by the federal government of Atlasia.  If you do not like marijuana, you have the choice to refrain from using it.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 11:02:17 PM »

I think marijuana use should be fully legalized and regulated, but I will vote aye on this bill.

If I am elected president, I'd urge the senate to legalize marijuana usage.  Your right to consume a soft drug in a way that does not harm others should be protected by the federal government of Atlasia.  If you do not like marijuana, you have the choice to refrain from using it.

This is my problem with the Bill.. it's trying to straddle a middle-ground.

I support legalisation, so either go for legalisation or re-word the Bill. Otherwise it appears to create an unnecessary back-way to circumstantial legalisation.


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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 11:47:01 PM »

I think marijuana use should be fully legalized and regulated, but I will vote aye on this bill.

If I am elected president, I'd urge the senate to legalize marijuana usage.  Your right to consume a soft drug in a way that does not harm others should be protected by the federal government of Atlasia.  If you do not like marijuana, you have the choice to refrain from using it.

This is my problem with the Bill.. it's trying to straddle a middle-ground.

I support legalisation, so either go for legalisation or re-word the Bill. Otherwise it appears to create an unnecessary back-way to circumstantial legalisation.
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Marijuana_Legalization_and_Taxation_Act

It is technically legal but this bill guarantees that all patients can obtain medical marijuana in their region.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 11:59:51 PM »

Can you please clarify this portion of FL 6-19

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What is the effect of this on the Bill?

And would it be contravening any regional rights?
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 01:40:39 AM »

I guess I'll vote aye.

Current tally is 4-1.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2011, 02:19:28 AM »

Again from the gallery (don't worry, I'll shut up afterwards):

I take issue with this formulation in the bill which is currently at vote.

Nowhere within the Republic of Atlasia shall restrictions or excessive regulations be placed on marijuana consumed for medical purposes.

The part of the Constitution I cited in my previous post says this:

No Law requiring any action to be taken or to be not taken by a Region shall be passed, except to preserve the rights of the Senate or of the People enumerated under the Constitution.

This bill bars the regions from placing restrictions on medical marijuana use and therefore, to my understanding, requires the regions of Atlasia not to take an action. I might be terribly wrong, but in my opinion this bill violates the Constitution.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 10:32:28 AM »

Nay

I am not sure about it being constitutional. I was always under the impression that pot was legal in Atlasia? If it isn't, why don't we just legalize it? I am sure it would pass this senate.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 12:57:39 PM »

I propose to hold on for a moment in order to check the existing law.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2011, 01:02:10 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Marijuana_Legalization_and_Taxation_Act

Pot is already legal. What is the point of this bill?
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2011, 01:12:36 PM »

Well, pot is legal but do we have laws stating that medical marijuana is already covered under Atlasian National Health Care Act?

If not, I see no reason why not to pass it, since it deals with medical marijuana issue. Maybe with little language modifications, to avoid confusion.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2011, 01:21:26 PM »

Pot isn't covered at all in the federal healthcare bill. At least, I saw no mention of it. That said, if it is already sold over the counter, is there a reason why we need to have a bill like this? Presumably states cannot restrict the sale of pot because it is a legal substance.

If we want to amend the healthcare bill to include this provision thats fine, but I don't understand why we are fearful that pot will be restricted. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2011, 02:35:33 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2011, 02:39:24 PM by Wolf Haley »

Pot isn't covered at all in the federal healthcare bill. At least, I saw no mention of it. That said, if it is already sold over the counter, is there a reason why we need to have a bill like this? Presumably states cannot restrict the sale of pot because it is a legal substance.

If we want to amend the healthcare bill to include this provision thats fine, but I don't understand why we are fearful that pot will be restricted. 

The law seems to be that regions can restrict it. I want to ensure that marijuana for medical purposes is not restricted. ZuWo already tried to ban medical marijuana alongside other members of your party.

It is a national interest to provide healthcare therefore the federal government is responsible for making the necessary treatments available. It is not up to the region's to decide what medically sound products are available or not. This is perfectly constitutional.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2011, 06:44:05 PM »

I'm still not sure that satisfies me... damn... why do I not have an attorney general!!!

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