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« on: October 08, 2011, 02:50:05 pm »
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Everyone's favorite concern troll is getting out of hand. Well, he almost always has been, but is he worthy of the ban hammer?
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 03:54:26 pm »
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Nah... He's inoffensive.
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Our numbers are dwindling. Our words are confused.
Some of them have been twisted by the enemy
until they can no longer be recognized.

Now what is wrong, or false, in what we have said?
Just some parts, or everything?
On whom can we still rely? Are we survivors, cast
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 05:32:50 pm »
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Who the hell is MD90?
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2011, 05:38:48 pm »
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Who the hell is MD90?

Concern troll extrodinaire. D-NY Avitar. AKA LBJ Revivalist.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2011, 06:10:55 pm »
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Oh right that guy.

Nah, let's keep him around.  He's really funny.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2011, 06:28:30 pm »
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He is harmless.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2011, 09:22:53 pm »
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He's a useless idiot and white noise poster that should be gone.  If it were up to me alone, he would be.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2011, 10:55:24 pm »
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He's a useless idiot and white noise poster that should be gone.

And one needs to ask how is somehow less of a pest than Rochambeau.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2011, 02:55:18 am »
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BTW, what do you guys think about Hindu ceremonies ?
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On whom can we still rely? Are we survivors, cast
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no longer understanding anyone and being understood by no one?
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This is what you ask. Expect
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2011, 04:29:08 am »
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I like the home poojas many women still do in the morning. Quiet little private affairs.
New and/or small Hindu temples always felt like pure moneythieving enterprises with little to no spiritual aura to me. But maybe I'm biased. Some of the large old places though are wonderful.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 04:37:22 am »
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I like the home poojas many women still do in the morning. Quiet little private affairs.
New and/or small Hindu temples always felt like pure moneythieving enterprises with little to no spiritual aura to me.

Those new Hindu temples have moved too far to the right.  How can we get them to moderate back to what they were like in the 1970s?

What factors would push the temples back to the center?  Back to when you had Rockefeller Hindus worshiping there?
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 06:27:16 am »
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I like the home poojas many women still do in the morning. Quiet little private affairs.
New and/or small Hindu temples always felt like pure moneythieving enterprises with little to no spiritual aura to me.

Those new Hindu temples have moved too far to the right.  How can we get them to moderate back to what they were like in the 1970s?

What factors would push the temples back to the center?  Back to when you had Rockefeller Hindus worshiping there?

We need to combat Hindutva ideology, or at least its promotion in temples; and Sanskritization, or rather half-assed half-understood Sanskritization as would appeal to an OBC Nouveau Riche.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 06:33:14 am »
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I don't know why you're trying to reform Hinduism from within. Jainism is where it's at.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 09:17:45 am »
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I don't know why you're trying to reform Hinduism from within.
Reform from without, by conversion by fire and sword to Islam, failed.

Hmmm... an alternate history scenario where India is kind of like Indonesia might be an interesting read...
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2011, 11:27:35 am »
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How did this turn into a discussion on Hinduism?
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2011, 12:10:29 pm »
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He's more of a troll than Rochambeau ever was. Rochambeau wasn't even a troll, he was just irrationally hated by everyone here.
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2011, 12:39:12 pm »
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He's more of a troll than Rochambeau ever was. Rochambeau wasn't even a troll, he was just irrationally hated by everyone here.

Rochambeau was an annoying spammer. MoDem is harmless in comparision. He is making relatively few posts.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2011, 12:45:25 pm »
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I'm wondering what you guys think about Buddhism. I hear it's the Middle Way.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2011, 08:31:32 pm »
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I don't know why you're trying to reform Hinduism from within.
Reform from without, by conversion by fire and sword to Islam, failed.

Hmmm... an alternate history scenario where India is kind of like Indonesia might be an interesting read...

Conversion to Islam isn't reform of any sort.

Shua is correct, Buddhism is the only reasonable religion. India should become 80% Buddhist.

And everyone should go to Durga Puja high at least once, preferably in Calcutta. And Shiv Ratri goes without saying.

Also can we talk about BRTD's church? I hear they raise their hands or something.
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2011, 09:09:59 pm »
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It's strange how India alone retained paganism, when all the other lands that were under Muslim rule for a prolonged time became Muslim. Modern rationalistic Hinduism reminds me of the Neoplatonism of Julian the Apostate. He was a fascinating man.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2011, 09:19:36 pm »
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What fascinates me more is why Bengal became so Muslim. Of course Bengal had Muslim rulers, but so did the rest of North India. Why didn't Bihar or Uttar Pradesh become so Muslim? Why was East Bengal always more Muslim than the west? And of course Islam also came through the way of trade to south India. Yet it didn't spread much beyond Kerala. Same with Christianity in Kerala, though later the Portuguese helped spread it up the west coast. Kerala has been a multicultural place for thousands of years. Pretty cool.
 
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2011, 09:46:54 pm »
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All the Hindus in India should just go follow Jesus Christ anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2011, 09:59:16 pm »
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All the Hindus in India should just go follow Jesus Christ anyway.

Hindus believe that everyone believes in the same god.
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2011, 10:28:41 pm »
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What fascinates me more is why Bengal became so Muslim. Of course Bengal had Muslim rulers, but so did the rest of North India. Why didn't Bihar or Uttar Pradesh become so Muslim? Why was East Bengal always more Muslim than the west? And of course Islam also came through the way of trade to south India. Yet it didn't spread much beyond Kerala. Same with Christianity in Kerala, though later the Portuguese helped spread it up the west coast. Kerala has been a multicultural place for thousands of years. Pretty cool.

The story is that Shah Jalal came to Sylhet because it was there that the soil was like that of his home in Yemen. It's an interesting thought, though. Certainly Kerala is the best part of India.
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2011, 10:33:24 pm »
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All the Hindus in India should just go follow Jesus Christ anyway.

Hindus believe that everyone believes in the same god.

But they're polytheists and don't believe in Jesus.

And then it's also kind of funny how they act toward Muslims too (thinking of Slumdog Millionaire.)
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