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« Reply #275 on: June 10, 2012, 10:19:43 PM »

AMLO says "free trade agreements are not a panacea". Production should be supported. B-r-r.  But he is saying it well.

I don't know how He said It. But the core of It is plain right.
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« Reply #276 on: June 10, 2012, 10:21:37 PM »

JVM has proposed universal social security (including minimal pension from the age of 70).

Wow! Wouldn't expect. Is It demagogic bull[Inks] or is there any chance she does
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« Reply #277 on: June 10, 2012, 10:22:51 PM »

Quadri proposes changing the drug policy - treating it as a medical problem.

Quadri seems good when He's not talking about economy.
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« Reply #278 on: June 10, 2012, 10:23:07 PM »

JVM has proposed universal social security (including minimal pension from the age of 70).

Wow! Wouldn't expect. Is It demagogic bull[Inks] or is there any chance she does
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It's pretty much guaranteed - everybody proposes it and it is being implemented already. Udmiittedly, the pension will be tiny in any case.
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« Reply #279 on: June 10, 2012, 10:23:28 PM »

Quadri proposes changing the drug policy - treating it as a medical problem.

Quadri seems good when He's not talking about economy.

Especially, when he is talking about the economy.
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« Reply #280 on: June 10, 2012, 10:24:15 PM »

JVM made a point of criticizing the PRI and AMLO, but not PRD. She asked for the leftist (and "honest PRI" vote).
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« Reply #281 on: June 10, 2012, 10:24:36 PM »

As part of his foreign policy AMLO promises 100% university coverage in Mexico.

For foreigners?

Smiley)
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« Reply #282 on: June 10, 2012, 10:25:32 PM »

JVM again attacks the PRI/PRD - for fiscal irresponsibility in the states they govern. Attacks AMLO for lack of transparency and corruption in DF when he governed (and EPN for the same in Mexico state).

How feasible is that (and what's the real impact on the average corruption perception)?
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« Reply #283 on: June 10, 2012, 10:31:50 PM »

Quadri is the only one to ask "how to pay for this?"

He has chutzpah - talking about education being the most important thing Smiley) And about improving the quality of teacher training - and about testing teachers Smiley) Wow!



This is that kind of good proposals that needs to be taken carefully.
    -  education being the most important may mean "let's just training people for tasks". This will just guarantee underdevelopment.
    -  evaluating teachers without previously giving them better conditions and training (even if only for tasks) is the best and more demagogic way to make education a big [Inks]ing dump.
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« Reply #284 on: June 10, 2012, 10:33:17 PM »

Free trade agreements only work when one of the countries is not unable to completely destroy the others economy. Otherwise, It will happen.

Mexican economy is ALREADY pretty open, at least as far as formal barriers are concerned. It could reduce tarrifs to zero, and little would happen - the last major anti-Chinese tarrifs have just been abolished. PAN is desperately removing them all before they are kicked out of office - they can't be returned by WTO rules Smiley)
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« Reply #285 on: June 10, 2012, 10:34:42 PM »

Quadri, I think, is proposing to change housing policy to develop cities, not so much distant suburbs, as it is now - the housing agency to be given cabinet status.

This is clever in principle. But It can turn into a simple Marathon of real state market, to built more and fast - and the result can be even worse than stupid suburbanization.
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« Reply #286 on: June 10, 2012, 10:34:57 PM »

This is that kind of good proposals that needs to be taken carefully.
    -  education being the most important may mean "let's just training people for tasks". This will just guarantee underdevelopment.
    -  evaluating teachers without previously giving them better conditions and training (even if only for tasks) is the best and more demagogic way to make education a big [Inks]ing dump.

It can't be a bigger dump than it is. Public schools in most places simply give no education beyond, perhaps, basic literacy - and even that not everywhere. The teacher quality at present cannot, possibly, become worse.
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« Reply #287 on: June 10, 2012, 10:36:42 PM »

Quadri, I think, is proposing to change housing policy to develop cities, not so much distant suburbs, as it is now - the housing agency to be given cabinet status.

This is clever in principle. But It can turn into a simple Marathon of real state market, to built more and fast - and the result can be even worse than stupid suburbanization.

They've been building millions of houses without public transit or infrastructure in open fields around the cities. W/ public money, in part.
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« Reply #288 on: June 10, 2012, 10:37:48 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2012, 10:45:33 PM by batmacumba »

It will finish with Mexico. Thanks all the deities humanity has ever believed, the ALCA went into a natural abortion.

Not at all. It is Mexico's chance to develop: Mexican monopolies have to be disolved in North American markets.

The whole Mexican economy will be dissolved. That's the problem. It's the kind of drug that really ends with the disease. It kills the patient, so the disease is gone.

EDIT.   Unless, sure, You're seeking Puerto Rican status...
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« Reply #289 on: June 10, 2012, 10:42:47 PM »

Quadri, I think, is proposing to change housing policy to develop cities, not so much distant suburbs, as it is now - the housing agency to be given cabinet status.

This is clever in principle. But It can turn into a simple Marathon of real state market, to built more and fast - and the result can be even worse than stupid suburbanization.

They've been building millions of houses without public transit or infrastructure in open fields around the cities. W/ public money, in part.

Oh sh*t. And Paulo Maluf made school. What else, are they building stupid viaducts all around?
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« Reply #290 on: June 10, 2012, 10:44:50 PM »

The whole Mexican economy will be dissolved. That's the problem. It's the kind of drug that really ends with the disease. It kills the patient, so the disease is gone.

Mexico has been enormously successful in trade competition. There is no reason why Mexicans won't be able to continue doing it. And, of course, disolving national economy in the greater North American economy is the point - we suffer from our own monopolies and oligarchies, making them part of the greater North American economy would remove their poison.
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« Reply #291 on: June 10, 2012, 10:45:33 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2012, 10:47:11 PM by ag »

Oh sh*t. And Paulo Maluf made school. What else, are they building stupid viaducts all around?

Yes, of course Smiley)

AMLO has been one of the greatest enthusiasts, as Mexico City mayor. At least, Ebrard is also building the metro - AMLO's efficiency was such, that he only could build the viaducts (and fewer of those than Ebrard, at that).
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« Reply #292 on: June 10, 2012, 10:47:46 PM »

Oh sh*t. And Paulo Maluf made school. What else, are they building stupid viaducts all around?

Yes, of course Smiley)

My Kthulhu. Or they've killed all urbanists, or else they need to be killed.
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« Reply #293 on: June 10, 2012, 10:48:37 PM »

EDIT.   Unless, sure, You're seeking Puerto Rican status...

Mexico is a tad bigger. And has pretty big and important businessmen. So, it would be a merger, not a plain acquisition. But, yest, that degree of (economic) integration would really be great (not without Smiley) ) Not that EPN wants it.
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« Reply #294 on: June 10, 2012, 10:51:32 PM »

The whole Mexican economy will be dissolved. That's the problem. It's the kind of drug that really ends with the disease. It kills the patient, so the disease is gone.

Mexico has been enormously successful in trade competition. There is no reason why Mexicans won't be able to continue doing it. And, of course, disolving national economy in the greater North American economy is the point - we suffer from our own monopolies and oligarchies, making them part of the greater North American economy would remove their poison.

As I've put on the edit.
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« Reply #295 on: June 10, 2012, 10:51:51 PM »

My Kthulhu. Or they've killed all urbanists, or else they need to be killed.

Urban planning has never been Mexican specialty Smiley) The last time any proper citywide planning happened was, probably, around the time of Cortes Smiley)

Add to this the fact, that there is zero political time-horizon. A mayor gets elected for 6 years, by the end of his 3rd year he works out some proposals, and at the beginning of the 6th year he starts running for another office (and, soon resigns). City district mayors and city council members get elected for 3 years - and resign after two.
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« Reply #296 on: June 10, 2012, 10:53:00 PM »


Nobody is proposing Mexico adopting the dollar - Banxico has been reasonably good at managing our own monetary policy recently. But making sure the Slims of this world have to compete w/ the Buffets is, undoubtedly, a worthy objective.
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« Reply #297 on: June 10, 2012, 10:55:10 PM »

EDIT.   Unless, sure, You're seeking Puerto Rican status...

Mexico is a tad bigger. And has pretty big and important businessmen. So, it would be a merger, not a plain acquisition. But, yest, that degree of (economic) integration would really be great (not without Smiley) ) Not that EPN wants it.

I don't share your enthusiasm at all, but I can see that It's not the cluesless proposals that popped throughout the region in the 90's.
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« Reply #298 on: June 10, 2012, 10:57:23 PM »

I don't share your enthusiasm at all, but I can see that It's not the cluesless proposals that popped throughout the region in the 90's.

Unlike the rest of the continent, Mexico has never been clueless on it. NAFTA was a very well though through decision, and it has done a lot to change Mexico. We aren't in South America, you know Smiley)
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« Reply #299 on: June 10, 2012, 10:58:57 PM »


Nobody is proposing Mexico adopting the dollar - Banxico has been reasonably good at managing our own monetary policy recently. But making sure the Slims of this world have to compete w/ the Buffets is, undoubtedly, a worthy objective.

Mmm... the little this kind of policy was tried here, Slims and Buffets joined to make things worse.
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