TJ in cleve vs 20RP12

[Username MechaRFK]

20RP12/TJ in Cleve. I think Jack Matthews is fine fellow man that is likable for a Ron Paul supporter but the general public tends to be more in line with TJ views. Especially the blue collar men who wouldn't like Jack social views. Jake takes the Northeast and the West where TJ takes the rest of the country.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Honored to be mentioned, but you have poor grammar

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I'm working on a map. I'm wondering where Pennsylvania and New Jersey would go. Despite Jake (or Carl as it may be) being from PA, he doesn't like the state and I doubt the state would like him. I'd see NJ as maybe more TJ favorable, but Jake/Carl's apparent adoration of the state to the point of pretending to live there could probably win over NJ. I am as well sort of perplexed on the Democratic Mid-West as well as the Liberal yet somehow somewhat Catholic North-East. Reagan was able to win over Catholics in those areas and TJ himself is Catholic and could easily stand a chance among religious folk when compared to Jake/Carl's agnosticism/atheism. This is somewhat difficult as it matches right-wing Catholic Populist against from what I know to be a Centre-Libertarian agnostic.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Red-TJ
Yellow-Jake/Carl

For some reason, I'd like TJ to have a change in NY, NJ, and Catholic New England, but I think the dominant Liberalism there is too much. He does, however, win the Liberal Mid-West thanks to high rural turnout, Reagan Democrats in places like Michigan, as well as preference for an economic moderate over the libertine economic anarchist (I assume) 20RP12.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Red-TJ
Yellow-Jake/Carl

For some reason, I'd like TJ to have a change in NY, NJ, and Catholic New England, but I think the dominant Liberalism there is too much. He does, however, win the Liberal Mid-West thanks to high rural turnout, Reagan Democrats in places like Michigan, as well as preference for an economic moderate over the libertine economic anarchist (I assume) 20RP12.

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[Username MechaRFK]

Honored to be mentioned, but you have poor grammar

Sorry about that. I never put much logic into these types of threads until I go deeper into details on how a election such as this would go out in real life.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Honored to be mentioned, but you have poor grammar

Sorry about that. I never put much logic into these types of threads until I go deeper into details on how a election such as this would go out in real life.

[California8429]

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Washington and Michigan go R?

[RI]

TJ in Cleve wins in a landslide.

[TJ in Oregon]

Washington and Michigan go R?

I don't know how I'm going to win Washington, but I would expect to win Michigan against a libertarian.

[Username MechaRFK]

TJ in Cleve wins in a landslide.

20RP12 is more moderate then Tj in his views though. And I could see Jake doing mildly well with independent voters and grabing the social liberal votes by default.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Well I know I'd win the Northeast and TJ would win the South, the Midwest and most of the Mideast, but how I win Montana and not Washington on A-Bob's map kind of confuses me.

We all know TJ would win overall though.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

About 35% turnout and mass immigration

[RI]

TJ in Cleve wins in a landslide.

20RP12 is more moderate then Tj in his views though. And I could see Jake doing mildly well with independent voters and grabing the social liberal votes by default.

Assuming this takes place any time in the present-to-near future, TJ's maturity and intelligence are more than enough to overpower 20RP12. He'd be beating up on a kid, really. If political positions were the only thing that mattered...maybe it would be within 200 EV, but they aren't.