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Question: Does Herman Cain's 999 plan make you more or less likely to vote for him?
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Great, poor people need to pay more, I like Cain more
 
#2
Don't really care either way, more concerned about other issues
 
#3
This is awful, rich need to pay more taxes not less, I like Cain less now
 
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The_Texas_Libertarian
TXMichael
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« on: October 14, 2011, 09:17:04 PM »

I hate to say I agree with Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum on this;  I don't want to give the federal government another method of taxing people.  A national sales tax at 9% on top of whatever local sales tax would be brutal.  Also there is no guarantee 9-9-9 wouldn't become 15-24-5 or 9-15-20.

Of course there could always be the worst case scenario for both parties.  Changing the flat income tax back to being progressive while keeping a national sales tax.   
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TXMichael
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2011, 10:18:50 AM »

How does this plan keep track of the "new v. used goods"?  It must take a fairly big bureaucracy to watch over something like that.  What if stores literally decide to open everything before selling it?  Wal-Mart and Target have most of their electronics behind glass or in a locked counter.  So nothing would stop them from removing the shrink wrap, taking the product out for a few seconds, placing it back and the selling it as used.  Thereby eliminating the 9% national sales tax on it?

Places like Best Buy could simply sell the floor model of whatever product, then open a new one to replace the floor model.   Another hypothetical work-around.

Also this could significantly slow down new car sales.  Why spent that additional tax money on a new vehicle when used vehicles are just fine?  Also, could an auto-dealer simply work around the new sales tax by saying test drives have made the vehicle "used" because it has more miles on it than 0?  If so then it wouldn't hurt the auto industry, but it would be another potential way to avoid paying taxes.

This plan has a lot of holes in it.  Although the good news for the conservatives is that there is no such thing as used medicine, food and gasoline, that way the new national sales tax can still affect the people with lower incomes disproportionately more than those with higher incomes.
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