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Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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It's what I've been noticing in most of its parts.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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For the same reason many other opinions are popular on the internet; it's an ability to publically but anonymously express opinion and speak to likeminded individuals.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Quote from: afleitch on October 17, 2011, 10:32:13 am
For the same reason many other opinions are popular on the internet; it's an ability to publically but anonymously express opinion and speak to likeminded individuals.
This.
Also, for groups whose views are in the minority and have had difficulty getting exposure for their views using traditional mediums the internet is a rather cost effective way of getting said exposure.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Because suburban white kids identify strongly with those views.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Counterculture Libertarian is a holdover from the late 1990s.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Quote from: phk on October 18, 2011, 12:53:41 pm
Counterculture Libertarian is a holdover from the late 1990s.
Any article that explains this phenomenon? Was this brought up from the rise of anti-PCism popular culture that was mainstream from 1998-2001 such as South Park, Nu-metal, rap, WWF, and Jerry Springer?
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Quote from: Nihilist for Herman Cain on October 18, 2011, 02:09:44 pm
Quote from: phk on October 18, 2011, 12:53:41 pm
Counterculture Libertarian is a holdover from the late 1990s.
Any article that explains this phenomenon? Was this brought up from the rise of anti-PCism popular culture that was mainstream from 1998-2001 such as South Park, Nu-metal, rap, WWF, and Jerry Springer?
How is the World Wildlife Fund libertarian?
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Quote from: Yet another display name referencing Herman Cain's 999 Plan on October 18, 2011, 04:34:51 pm
Quote from: Nihilist for Herman Cain on October 18, 2011, 02:09:44 pm
Quote from: phk on October 18, 2011, 12:53:41 pm
Counterculture Libertarian is a holdover from the late 1990s.
Any article that explains this phenomenon? Was this brought up from the rise of anti-PCism popular culture that was mainstream from 1998-2001 such as South Park, Nu-metal, rap, WWF, and Jerry Springer?
How is the World Wildlife Fund libertarian?
Lol. I was reffering to wrestlin.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet
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Quote from: Nihilist for Herman Cain on October 18, 2011, 04:57:24 pm
Quote from: Yet another display name referencing Herman Cain's 999 Plan on October 18, 2011, 04:34:51 pm
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Quote from: phk on October 18, 2011, 12:53:41 pm
Counterculture Libertarian is a holdover from the late 1990s.
Any article that explains this phenomenon? Was this brought up from the rise of anti-PCism popular culture that was mainstream from 1998-2001 such as South Park, Nu-metal, rap, WWF, and Jerry Springer?
How is the World Wildlife Fund libertarian?
Lol. I was reffering to wrestlin.
I was joking.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Part of it is that the internet has no clear authority figure and both atheism and libertarianism are skeptical of authority.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Quote from: nclib on November 02, 2011, 07:09:36 pm
Part of it is that the internet has no clear authority figure and both atheism and libertarianism are skeptical of authority.
Leftism is the same way with authority.
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Quote from: Opebo is Jesus Christma on November 04, 2011, 04:05:18 pm
Quote from: nclib on November 02, 2011, 07:09:36 pm
Part of it is that the internet has no clear authority figure and both atheism and libertarianism are skeptical of authority.
Leftism is the same way with authority.
That depends on the authority.
Although, it does with libertarianism too (see the willingness to accept corporate authority).
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Yes 'cause that's something all libertarians get behind
I suppose you also think we enjoy anarchy, want to get rid of prisons and cops and think Somalia sounds perfect?
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Because it is filled with Pre-teens and teens that are interested in holding counter-cultural views for their own shock-value sake.
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Quote from: dead0man on November 06, 2011, 05:09:40 am
Yes 'cause that's something all libertarians get behind
I suppose you also think we enjoy anarchy, want to get rid of prisons and cops and think Somalia sounds perfect?
No, but I'm referring to the type of 'libertarianism' that actually has some vague influence on public policy, which tends to be corporatist.
Come to that, state authority isn't something all leftists can get behind either.
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Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Quote from: Nathan on November 06, 2011, 02:14:05 am
Quote from: Opebo is Jesus Christma on November 04, 2011, 04:05:18 pm
Quote from: nclib on November 02, 2011, 07:09:36 pm
Part of it is that the internet has no clear authority figure and both atheism and libertarianism are skeptical of authority.
Leftism is the same way with authority.
That depends on the authority.
Although, it does with libertarianism too (see the willingness to accept corporate authority).
Authority such as cops and military are distrusted by most leftists.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Quote from: Greed is Good. on November 06, 2011, 08:14:08 am
Because it is filled with Pre-teens and teens that are interested in holding counter-cultural views for their own shock-value sake. But more importantly as seems to be a trend with this demographic, to try and be rebellious against what is the norm.
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Quote from: Opebo is Jesus Christma on November 07, 2011, 04:34:28 pm
Quote from: Nathan on November 06, 2011, 02:14:05 am
Quote from: Opebo is Jesus Christma on November 04, 2011, 04:05:18 pm
Quote from: nclib on November 02, 2011, 07:09:36 pm
Part of it is that the internet has no clear authority figure and both atheism and libertarianism are skeptical of authority.
Leftism is the same way with authority.
That depends on the authority.
Although, it does with libertarianism too (see the willingness to accept corporate authority).
Authority such as cops and military are distrusted by most leftists.
True.
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Then how come leftist politics are as common as libertarian politics on the internet even though it has the second best following of the ideology's?
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Quote from: Opebo is Jesus Christma on November 08, 2011, 04:04:20 pm
Then how come leftist politics are as common as libertarian politics on the internet even though it has the second best following of the ideology's?
It doesn't matter. They're both anti-establishment and that was the point.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Quote from: Nathan on November 06, 2011, 03:32:54 pm
Quote from: dead0man on November 06, 2011, 05:09:40 am
Yes 'cause that's something all libertarians get behind
I suppose you also think we enjoy anarchy, want to get rid of prisons and cops and think Somalia sounds perfect?
No, but I'm referring to the type of 'libertarianism' that actually has some vague influence on public policy, which tends to be corporatist.
I just wanted to point out that 'corporatist' refers to someone who follow corporatism, which is Mussoulini's theory that parts of a society should act together as one body. I'm pretty sure libertarians aren't a fan of that. I think the word you're looking for is 'corporatocratic'.
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Re: Why is atheism/libertarianism so common on the Internet?
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Because the majority of internet users are highly educated adults and youths. These two groups tend to be atheist and libertarian. Particularly youths, who seem transition from apathy to libertarianism seamlessly before being immersed in the real world. Adults seem to be more of a well rounded group.
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Quote from: realisticidealist on November 08, 2011, 05:31:21 pm
Quote from: Nathan on November 06, 2011, 03:32:54 pm
Quote from: dead0man on November 06, 2011, 05:09:40 am
Yes 'cause that's something all libertarians get behind
I suppose you also think we enjoy anarchy, want to get rid of prisons and cops and think Somalia sounds perfect?
No, but I'm referring to the type of 'libertarianism' that actually has some vague influence on public policy, which tends to be corporatist.
I just wanted to point out that 'corporatist' refers to someone who follow corporatism, which is Mussoulini's theory that parts of a society should act together as one body. I'm pretty sure libertarians aren't a fan of that. I think the word you're looking for is 'corporatocratic'.
Yes, you're right; thank you.
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
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