Who wins Ohio and Florida in 2012?

[Debs Dewey]

So I think most of us understand that Ohio and Florida are need to win states for Republicans. sS based off this and looking at the trends form past elections(all data gotten from state election web site) and polls. Who will win Ohio and Florida. (* indicate winners)


Ohio results                                                                  Florida results

                                                              2008
John McCain           Barack Obama*                             McCain        *Obama
2,677,820           2,940,044                                      4,037,446        4,282,074
46.91%                   51.50%                                          48.53%        51.47%

                                                              2004
*George W. Bush   John F. Kerry                                  *Bush        Kerry
2,859,768           2,741,167                                      3,957,153       3,583,544
50.81%                   48.71%                                          52.48%        47.52%

                                                              2000
*George Bush     Al Gore                                            *Bush         Gore
2,351,209           2,186,190                                       2,906,221         2,911,417
50.00%                   46.50%                                          49.96%            50.04%

                                                              1996
Bob Dole                   Bill Clinton*                                    *Dole                Clinton
1,859,883           2,148,222                                      2,542,976          2,243,324
41.02%                   47.38%                                         53.13%          46.87%

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I think Republicans get Ohio and maybe get Florida. Depends on the candidate, how the Republican governors in those states do, etc.

[I Am Feeblepizza.]

I think Republicans get Ohio and maybe get Florida. Depends on the candidate, how the Republican governors in those states do, etc.

I don't understand why people think that people will vote Democrat just because they disapprove of a Republican governor. "I'm going to vote against Mitt Romney, who hasn't held political office in five years, because he's a member of the same party as my terrible Republican governor, John Kasich/Rick Scott."

[mondale84]

I think Republicans get Ohio and maybe get Florida. Depends on the candidate, how the Republican governors in those states do, etc.

I don't understand why people think that people will vote Democrat just because they disapprove of a Republican governor. "I'm going to vote against Mitt Romney, who hasn't held political office in five years, because he's a member of the same party as my terrible Republican governor, John Kasich/Rick Scott."

They will say...hm...John Kasich is a Republican and he's an ass, I'm not going to vote for a republican a**hole

[Miles]

I think Republicans get Ohio and maybe get Florida. Depends on the candidate, how the Republican governors in those states do, etc.

I don't understand why people think that people will vote Democrat just because they disapprove of a Republican governor. "I'm going to vote against Mitt Romney, who hasn't held political office in five years, because he's a member of the same party as my terrible Republican governor, John Kasich/Rick Scott."

They will say...hm...John Kasich is a Republican and he's an ass, I'm not going to vote for a republican a**hole

I'm with Cathcon here. As much as I'd like it to be otherwise, the Governors will play a fairly minimal role, all things considered.

[rbt48]

I think you mixed up the vote totals for FL-2000.

I think he used a revisionist form of history for these Florida results.  This site (David Leip's) has it as 2,912,790  for Bush, 2,912,253 for Gore.

Of course, folks will argue about Florida and 2000 for a hundred years, but the totals that were counted are those I cited.

[Debs Dewey]

I think you mixed up the vote totals for FL-2000.

I think he used a revisionist form of history for these Florida results.  This site (David Leip's) has it as 2,912,790  for Bush, 2,912,253 for Gore.

Of course, folks will argue about Florida and 2000 for a hundred years, but the totals that were counted are those I cited.

Your right I didn't add the last county, Washington county, for Bush. I then went back to the Florida State Elections website to double check.

here is the website enight.dos.state.fl.us/downloadresults.asp?ElectionDate=11/7/2000&DATAMODE=


here are the new numbers I doubled checked.

2000   Bush               Gore
total           2,911,215       2,911,417
Percent    50                   50

[Deano1001]

People HATE Crist in Florida, who is a Republican which means I would give Florida to Obama. I would make Ohio a total toss up, but also leaning Obama if Unemployment drops below 9% by election day.