China interactive game, and China county map

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I'll also be using this thread to host the interactive parts of the what-if.

It's a combo what-if story/game

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I'll leave the map up for a few more days.

Right now I'm looking for people to interact as the policy advisors for both the Conservatives and Communists.

[Simfan34]

Chongqing, Conservatives?  (that's where Bo Xilai's from, right?) But isn't not tipped for the leadership- that would be Xi Xinping, right?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Winning Alliance - we have no idea how many people voted for other parties!

[Simfan34]

But that's back in '12, no?

I would like to interact.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Great work so far!

I doubt the opposition to the Communists would call themselves "Conservatives", because 1) the Communists are the conservatives in the sense that they would presumably want to keep things the way they are and 2) the CCP is a right-wing, nationalist pro-capitalist party which is probably to the right of the U.S. Republicans. What gets interesting is if Hardline Maoists decide to challenge the mainline CCP.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The terminology is American. The real Chinese name is 国民党民主解放自由联盟和联邦政党致力于整个中国土地，中国人民的民主。But since that's a mouthful, the US media reports it as "Conservatives"

[Stranger in a strange land]

The terminology is American. The real Chinese name is 国民党民主解放自由联盟和联邦政党致力于整个中国土地，中国人民的民主。But since that's a mouthful, the US media reports it as "Conservatives"

well, they would Leave it to the U.S. media to make obfuscating oversimplifications

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The more information that comes out the clearer all of this will be.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

As per the latest update
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=142433.new#new
The #1 issue is the upper house. Here are some of the proposals...


A proposal from a Conservative member would see each Province or Region elect 2 members, much like the US Senate.

An alternative propose would see each elect 3.

A Communist proposal would see a house decided by Representation by Population, on a FPTP system, with a total of 200 seats.

Another would see a similar proposal but using proportional representation.

A proposal from the Southern Federation would have Provinces appoint Senators

A proposal from the Liberals would have a very small upper house of 24 members elected from the lower house

Proposals from the Regionalists would see the various reigons elect extra senators.

[Simfan34]

Is this the ROC or not? If it is, I'd simply propose re-establishing the National Assembly.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

This is not the ROC.

[Simfan34]

We need an system where each province has three seats chosen by party list, and another two that are appointed. An additional 20% will be allocated by population.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Are you involving yourself with the Conservatives?

[izixs]

The six ways to appoint 34 senators all running at the same time seems overly complicated. A compromise would be very desirable and would probably form from the most similar proposals. Remember that some proposals lean towards province power, and others towards citizen power. And some lean towards local power and others towards national power. Figure out which of these two conflicts turn out and build the compromise system from that. Else there is probably way to much book keeping involved here.

Given that its China and old traditions don't die easily, national power would probably be ahead unless the autonomy leaning groups/regions are able to counter balance the momentum there. And province power is also equivalent to party power, so party power would probably have the edge starting off there. More so if the national power is loosing as inevitably that requires strong provinces to demand more power to the locals.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The Compromise is generally supported amongst the parties

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

A Communist proposal would see a two Senators appointed by the province (68) plus 68 Senators chosen from the Assembly, and 68 elected from nationwide-PR.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Note that following the Senate being settled, there will be another election, as well a few issues will be non-interactive.

[Dereich]

Note that following the Senate being settled, there will be another election, as well a few issues will be non-interactive.

Has their been anything else going on that would shift public opinion one way or another? And does the public approve of the Senate plan?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The Public is more concerned with their jobs than complex affairs of state, a new political culture takes time to get into place.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Note that I'm speeding up the plans due to more! ( ) than expected involvement in the interactive part of this game. Hence there will be a few elections coming fast and furious.

Keep track of the news thread https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=142433.0 for info

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Okay, I've skipped ahead 2 years worth of Elections. The issues are the same, except there are some new ones:

Mongolia and Korea need to be solved soon.

A series of Referendums is going to be held around the country on regional issues.

Xinjaing could erupt in a full blown Civil war.



All of you, unless you state otherwise, are presumed to be Liberals.