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« Reply #475 on: July 08, 2012, 10:59:27 AM »

Just because someone isn't familiar with the issues doesn't mean that person can't be a good executive. I trust Palin more as a decision maker than Obama.

Sarah Palin is a scatterbrain. She failed to recognize that she could lambast urban and suburban America and not get away with it. She spoke of the 'Real America' fifty miles away from so 'unreal' a place as Columbus, Ohio, ignoring that her diatribes against 'not-so-real America' would go back to Columbus on the microphones of TV stations in Columbus -- a place that in many respects is more a microcosm of the cities and suburbs that voted for President Obama.

She was out of touch with the demographics of America and more significantly the sensibilities of voters who live where the concrete is -- and not where the cattle pastures are.   

 
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« Reply #476 on: July 08, 2012, 11:17:26 AM »


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American Crossroads? Might as well be called "Doublecross America". Having an unelected Party boss as the real leader of America? Well, it has been tried. That's how Stalin operated. Sure, the agenda would be different, but under a Party Boss, if you aren't part of the pet constituencies, you will be $crewed at best.

Karl Rove was the real ruler of America between 2001 and 2006, ruling through lobbyists and stooges. Those were bad times indeed -- times of ruin. Let's not repeat that!
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« Reply #477 on: July 08, 2012, 11:18:37 AM »

The Obama campaign has launched way more negative attack ads than the Romney campaign.

The negative ads practically write themselves with Romney as the presumptive nominee.
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« Reply #478 on: July 08, 2012, 05:03:31 PM »

Just because someone isn't familiar with the issues doesn't mean that person can't be a good executive. I trust Palin more as a decision maker than Obama.

Sarah Palin is a scatterbrain. She failed to recognize that she could lambast urban and suburban America and not get away with it. She spoke of the 'Real America' fifty miles away from so 'unreal' a place as Columbus, Ohio, ignoring that her diatribes against 'not-so-real America' would go back to Columbus on the microphones of TV stations in Columbus -- a place that in many respects is more a microcosm of the cities and suburbs that voted for President Obama.

She was out of touch with the demographics of America and more significantly the sensibilities of voters who live where the concrete is -- and not where the cattle pastures are.   

 

I'm sorry, but that fails to address the point of my post. Unless you believe campaigning is the exact same thing as running a country, which, I'll admit, seemed to be what Obama thought in 2008. And what gives responding to a post made a month and a half ago?
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« Reply #479 on: July 08, 2012, 05:06:53 PM »

The Obama campaign has launched way more negative attack ads than the Romney campaign.

The negative ads practically write themselves with Romney as the presumptive nominee.

That's the biggest excuse I've ever heard. Any candidate can EASILY run attack ads. The relative easiness is a moot point. The fact remains that Obama has run more negative ads than Romney. Period. Sure, superPACs run negative ads. But I'm an idealist with this issue: I don't believe there is much coordination going on between the PACs and the Romney campaign. The ads may benefit Romney, but he ain't signing off on them.
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« Reply #480 on: July 08, 2012, 07:05:49 PM »

The Obama campaign has launched way more negative attack ads than the Romney campaign.

The negative ads practically write themselves with Romney as the presumptive nominee.

I don't believe there is much coordination going on between the PACs and the Romney campaign.

lol, what?
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« Reply #481 on: July 08, 2012, 11:25:57 PM »

The Obama campaign has launched way more negative attack ads than the Romney campaign.

The negative ads practically write themselves with Romney as the presumptive nominee.

That's the biggest excuse I've ever heard. Any candidate can EASILY run attack ads. The relative easiness is a moot point. The fact remains that Obama has run more negative ads than Romney. Period. Sure, superPACs run negative ads. But I'm an idealist with this issue: I don't believe there is much coordination going on between the PACs and the Romney campaign. The ads may benefit Romney, but he ain't signing off on them.

The people behind those Orwellian super-PAC ads by Rove, Norquist, et al, act as if they intend to be the real power in America if Mitt Romney is elected, the House remains R and the Senate goes R. Those people intend to turn the political process into a sham with themselves deciding even who eats and who starves. They are technically excellent,  some of the most adept propaganda ever made. They still serve a hidden agenda -- one in which the political process becomes nothing more than dividing up economic and political power among a few who expect to get even richer by treating the common man even worse.

Mitt Romney increasingly follows the line of those groups much like a former democrat (agrarian, liberal, socialist, or even conservative) might have sold out to Commies to advance a political career in central or southeastern Europe in the late 1940s or early 1950s. Maybe some of the personalities of an earlier time might serve to reassure people that things couldn't be so bad because such-and-such pol could never be a Stalinist. But he has sold out his old supporters and allies even if he never adopts the Communist label.

The objective here is to establish a pure plutocracy in which lobbyists are the enforcers. Such is a new form of dictatorship... and it will sting as harshly as most of the others.
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« Reply #482 on: July 09, 2012, 03:15:51 AM »

You make it sound like Obama has actually kept his promise to stand up to the special interests. He's no better than Romney. This is politics. Sure, Citizens United is a horrible ruling. But it ain't changing, so we've just got to role with the punches. I think Obama can manage.
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« Reply #483 on: July 14, 2012, 09:28:19 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiLzhspzLdU

Thank you Mr. President for delivering on your promise of hope and change.
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« Reply #484 on: July 14, 2012, 10:48:14 AM »

Ouch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud3mMj0AZZk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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« Reply #485 on: July 14, 2012, 10:51:33 AM »

That Obama ad is probably one of the lowest ad-related blows so far. Despicable.
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« Reply #486 on: July 14, 2012, 10:53:12 AM »

That Obama ad is probably one of the lowest ad-related blows so far. Despicable.

Truth Hurts.
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« Reply #487 on: July 14, 2012, 11:02:53 AM »

That Obama ad is probably one of the lowest ad-related blows so far. Despicable.

Truth Hurts.

Obama's other Bain ads were more effective. This one is petty and makes Obama look small.
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« Reply #488 on: July 14, 2012, 11:44:25 AM »

I'm not saying it's an effective ad. I just think it's a low blow to use Romney's singing like that. Save this type of sh**t for the late night talk shows where it belongs.
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« Reply #489 on: July 14, 2012, 11:47:25 AM »

I'm not saying it's an effective ad. I just think it's a low blow to use Romney's singing like that. Save this type of sh**t for the late night talk shows where it belongs.

It points out Romney's hypocrisy. The man constantly wraps himself in the flag and spouts patriotic pablum, but when it comes time for him to put his money where his mouth is, he puts it in Switzerland and the Cayman islands instead.
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« Reply #490 on: July 14, 2012, 11:50:30 AM »

That is a brilliant, perfect ad. Run ads of its caliber for the next four months and we win.
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« Reply #491 on: July 14, 2012, 12:12:37 PM »

That is a brilliant, perfect ad. Run ads of its caliber for the next four months and we win.

Yeah, it sends that hopey changey chill right up my leg.
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« Reply #492 on: July 14, 2012, 12:15:06 PM »

I am hereby projecting Ohio for Obama with that ad.
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« Reply #493 on: July 14, 2012, 12:16:08 PM »

That is a brilliant, perfect ad. Run ads of its caliber for the next four months and we win.

Yeah, it sends that hopey changey chill right up my leg.

He will not win on hopey changey ads now. He has to destroy Romney, and Romney has been more than accommodating.
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« Reply #494 on: July 14, 2012, 12:24:00 PM »

That is a brilliant, perfect ad. Run ads of its caliber for the next four months and we win.

Yeah, it sends that hopey changey chill right up my leg.

He will not win on hopey changey ads now. He has to destroy Romney,

I would say you summed up my point pretty well
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« Reply #495 on: July 14, 2012, 01:00:08 PM »

Mitt Romney: Asking for Apologies While Launching Attacks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDuk6dYjocM

Mitt Romney's Bain Secret Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va78bM53I9k
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« Reply #496 on: July 14, 2012, 02:04:48 PM »

That ad is great. Surely it deserves its own thread?
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« Reply #497 on: July 14, 2012, 02:38:01 PM »

I love watching Republicans whine about these ads and say how they're mean and unfair. Now you know what the last four years have felt like for us.
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« Reply #498 on: July 14, 2012, 03:15:08 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud3mMj0AZZk&feature=plcp

Brilliant
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« Reply #499 on: July 14, 2012, 05:33:33 PM »

I love watching Republicans whine about these ads and say how they're mean and unfair. Now you know what the last four years have felt like for us.
I love watching democrats who called republicans mean and unfair for vicious ad campaigns now bragging about their own.
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