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« Reply #425 on: October 16, 2012, 04:31:24 PM »

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« Reply #426 on: October 21, 2012, 05:12:52 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2012, 02:00:48 AM by solopop »

Although a popular figure in US politics nothing could save the Conservative party from a collapsing economy and a looming war with Iran. In 1986 with countless tax cuts and Wall St. deregulation the economy officially fell into recession taking along with it 17 million jobs and a high flying US dollar. President Reagan tried to save it but ultimately failed with his '1987 Reagan/Bush plan' which would give further tax cuts but drastically cut spending. Unions protested and rioting erupted over the U.S. a new hero was needed.

Recognizing that the Conservatives were doomed the begrudgingly nominated Senator John B. Anderson of Illinois. The Republicans too tried to salvage what was possible gave former Governor of Wyoming Stanley K. Hathaway a go.

But no one cared for what they were doing when the Democrats nominated Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro as they choice for President in what was a landslide win for her in the primaries.

Geraldine chose Fmr Governor Bob Graham as her running mate.
Anderson chose Henry Kissinger.
& Hathaway chose Bob Dole.



Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/ Governor Bob Graham (D-FL) - 504 EV 67% Popular Vote
Governor Stanley K. Hathaway(R-WY) / Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) - 34 EV 21% Popular Vote
Senator John B. Anderson (C-IL)/ Secretary of State Henry Kissinger (C) - 0 EV 12% PV
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« Reply #427 on: October 21, 2012, 05:45:54 PM »
« Edited: October 21, 2012, 06:43:34 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

Interesting Wink Look forward to seeing the map, but in the future, can you do it all at once, instead of dragging it along? Smiley
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« Reply #428 on: October 22, 2012, 02:04:30 AM »

Sorry was at school.
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« Reply #429 on: October 22, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »

Gotcha. I don't mean to be overly critical, but Henry Kissinger is foreign born, and thus uneligible for the Vice Presidency, and I have a hard time seeing the Conservatives nominating John Anderson. Just my two cents Smiley
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« Reply #430 on: October 22, 2012, 03:28:32 PM »

Maybe laws were changed...
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« Reply #431 on: October 22, 2012, 04:01:07 PM »

You would need President Bernie Sanders to do that Wink The last couple of administrations would never change the laws that radically.
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« Reply #432 on: October 23, 2012, 01:40:07 PM »

Shoddy next. Doing it now.
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« Reply #433 on: October 23, 2012, 02:18:40 PM »

1988

President Geraldine Ferraro first term was off to a rough start. Conservative and Republican members of Congress stifled Ferraro's agenda by limiting the President's stimulus bill and voting to cut spending --which the President immediately vetoed. Instead of taking a bipartisan line, the President stubbornly said she would oppose the Conservative and Republican coalition and would not come to the table.

Ferraro would prove to be an aloof President who's staff would often pursue their own agenda unchecked. The number of bad media stories was sky rocketing and ultimately it would lead to a scandal where her Secretary of the Treasury would

Vice President Bob Graham would decline to run with Ferraro for a second term and in January 1989 he would resign from the Vice Presidency to run against Ferraro for the Democratic nomination for President.  He would defeat Ferraro in a rather easy primary.

On the Republican side, all the candidates would call election of Ferraro a waste of time.



Former Vice President Bob Graham (D-FL) / Governor William J. Clinton (D-AR) - 287 Electoral Votes, 50.1% Popular Vote
Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD) / Senator Chuck Percy (R-IL)- 251 Electoral Votes, 49.9% Popular Vote
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« Reply #434 on: October 23, 2012, 03:07:37 PM »

Ok, the last two posts do not match up at all. First of all, Solopop did 1988, and he did it in error. The run off system was not mentioned, and he used candidates who did not match the parties. Then Sirnick did 1988 again, even though it should be 1992, and again, ignored the last couple of posts in which a runoff was used. I think a redo is in order.
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« Reply #435 on: October 23, 2012, 05:15:45 PM »

Get over it love! Maybe laws change!?
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« Reply #436 on: October 23, 2012, 05:20:41 PM »

Ok, the last two posts do not match up at all. First of all, Solopop did 1988, and he did it in error. The run off system was not mentioned, and he used candidates who did not match the parties. Then Sirnick did 1988 again, even though it should be 1992, and again, ignored the last couple of posts in which a runoff was used. I think a redo is in order.

I concur.
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« Reply #437 on: October 23, 2012, 05:27:58 PM »

1988

Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (MW-NY)/Senator Robert Dole (MW-KS)-247 EV, 32.1% of the popular vote.
Vice President Jack Kemp (C-NY)/Congressman Newt Gingrich (C-GA)-193 EV, 30.8% of the popular vote.
Senator Edward Kennedy (SD-MA)/Mr. Jesse Jackson (SD-IL)-95 EV, 28.5% of the popular vote.
Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/Congressman Dick Randolph (L-AK)-3 EV, 7.9% of the popular vote.
Other (Socialist Workers, Ecology, Prohibition)-0.7% of the popular vote.

The late 1980’s saw the greatest political upheaval and realignment in decades. Although a popular figure in US politics, President Reagan could not save the Conservative Party from public disapproval. In 1986, despite countless tax cuts and Wall Street deregulation, the economy fell into recession taking along with it 17 million jobs and a high flying US dollar. President Reagan tried to save it but ultimately failed with his '1987 Reagan/Kemp plan which drastically cut spending and taxes. Republicans and the Democrats, both seen as centrist parties compared to Peace and Freedom and the Conservatives, merged to form the “Modern Whig Party”, in November of 1987.

The first Modern Whig Party primaries saw Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro beat out several well known rivals, such as former Vice President Jimmy Carter, Senator Robert Dole, General Al Haig, and Governor Bob Graham. To unite the young party, Ferraro picked Senator Dole as her running mate, and they campaigned on a ticket of tax decreases for the poor, tax increases for the wealthy and greater intervention in foreign affairs.

Conservatives nominated Vice President Kemp, who faced a strong challenge from Reverend Pat Robertson. Kemp asked Georgia Congressman Newt Gingrich to be his running mate. The Kemp/Gingrich ticket would face an uphill battle, with the Democrats and Republicans no longer splitting votes.

The Peace and Freedom Party and the leftwing of the Democratic Party formed the Social Democratic Party. The Social Democrats nominated Ted Kennedy for President, and Jesse Jackson for Vice President. The ticket would work hard to gain support of poor, urban, or minority voters to build a strong coalition as the main leftwing party in the United States.

The Libertarian Party once again returned to the spotlight when they nominated Congressman Ron Paul, a disaffected Conservative from Texas for President, and longtime Libertarian Congressman Dick Randolph of Alaska as their Presidential ticket.

The election was dirty and vitriolic. Ferraro came under attack for her husband’s questionable business associations. Controversial statements by Jesse Jackson dogged the Social Democratic ticket, while Newt Gingrich’s personal history, particularly his alleged dodging of the Vietnam draft brought negative attention.

The first round saw the Whigs and Conservatives advance towards the second round.  The second round saw the Social Democrats endorse Ferraro, who vigorously campaigned across the country. Conservatives grew stronger in the polls in the west, where the Libertarian Party performed well. However, the Whigs were able to co-opt moderate conservatives and Social Democrats into their fold, and in the second round, Geraldine Ferraro became the first female President of the United States.


Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (MW-NY)/Senator Robert Dole (MW-KS)-327 EV, 55.5% of the popular vote.
Vice President Jack Kemp (C-NY)/Congressman Newt Gingrich (C-GA)-193 EV, 44.5% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #438 on: October 23, 2012, 05:29:05 PM »

Get over it love! Maybe laws change!?
We have rules here. Its a fun game, and your post was good. I used a lot of it. I simply reformed it to make it fit in. If your not going to follow the set timeline, don't participate.
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« Reply #439 on: October 23, 2012, 09:42:54 PM »

Ah sorry, I thought I read it all but I must have missed a tad bit.


Also, please date posts at the top (ex: 1988)
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« Reply #440 on: October 24, 2012, 04:47:09 AM »
« Edited: October 24, 2012, 05:46:45 AM by solopop »

Okay I'll try 1992.

President Ferraro arrived in 1992 with an improving economy, since becoming president she'd been credited with the creation of 16 million jobs thanks to the Ferraro/Kennedy plan, interest rates began to flatten out and inflation fell, despite this some industries collapsed especially around what would become known as 'the rust belt'. Ferraro was never blamed for this, most perceived the blame to rest on Reagan and his failures and short comings as president.  With the Ferraro/ Kennedy plan strong ties were made with the Social Democratic party much to the displeasure of the right of the party and in 1991 an official split was declared.

The Modern Whig and the Social Democratic parties combined creating the Modern Democratic party, while the Right formed a new party with the Conservatives to create the party known as the National party who were founded on Christian values with a strong emphasis on 'rural' America. Other parties coming to prominence included 'the Greens' who campaigned for the environment and in the 1990 elections picked up 3 senate seats in Alaska and Hawaii and a special Connecticut election, the Greens would often side with the MD's. Another party of prominence was the Guns and Hunters party who became popular in states like Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska and Oklahoma. They campaigned on a greater right to have arms and kill wildlife, they were well known after their ex-Leader George Bush Snr. was involved in a fight with a Greens campaigner.

The Democrats had an uneventful primary series with Ferraro winning all states against next to no opposition, but due to party slip a new VP had to be chosen and in 1991 she replaced National party member Bob Dole with former Governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton.

The National party primaries were extremely ugly with former VP Bob Dole, Congressman Newt Gingrich, Senator John McCain and Senator Lowell P. Weicker Jr. Infighting in the party was strife with results of states often coming in with the tiniest of margins separating all four candidates. Despite all his experience favorite Bob Dole lost out to young gun and champion of conservative values Newt Gingrich. He chose John McCain as his running mate.

The Greens had an un-eventful series with senator of Connecicut, Ralph Nader being chosen with his VP choice being Daniel Akaka.

The Guns and Hunters party nominated the infamous George Bush Snr. who was once a VP nominee in 1980. He chose former senator of Indiana Dan Quayle as his running mate.

Despite all changes Ferraro strengthened her Presidency, in an enormous election landslide.



President Geraldine Ferraro (MD-NY)/Vice President Bill Clinton (MD-AR) - 42.3% PV & 384 EV
Congressman Newt Gingrich (NA-GA)/Senator John McCain (NA-AZ) - 25.1% PV & 88 EV
Senator Ralph Nader (GR-CT)/Senator Daniel Akaka (GR-HI) - 17.2% PV & 46 EV
Director of CIA/Congressman George H. W. Bush (GH-TX)/Senator Daniel Quayle(GH-IN) - 15.4% PV & 20 EV



President Geraldine Ferraro (MD-NY)/Vice President Bill Clinton (MD-AR) - 59.8% PV & 418 EV
Congressman Newt Gingrich (NA-GA)/Senator John McCain (NA-AZ) - 40.2% & 120 EV
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« Reply #441 on: October 25, 2012, 05:32:46 AM »

Anyone?
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« Reply #442 on: October 25, 2012, 01:08:19 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2012, 02:41:12 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

I have an interesting proposal. How about we go all the way back to 1840 and do every election since? That would be a good list to do next once we finish this one.
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« Reply #443 on: October 25, 2012, 05:30:17 PM »

1868
When Ulysses S. Grant announced he wouldn't be running for President of the United States, the Republican National Convention was thrown into chaos. The emerging nominee was Senator Benjamin Wade of Ohio. Senator Samuel C. Pomeroy of Kansas was nominated for Vice President. Meanwhile, Governor Horatio Seymour's campaign was able to cast the Republican ticket as a pair of Radical Republicans and to pick up supporters in crucial states.

Former Governor Horatio Seymour (D-NY)/Senator Francis Blair Jr. (D-MO) 163 electoral votes, 51% of the popular vote
Senator Benjamin Wade (R-OH)/Senator Samuel Pomery (R-KS) 131 electoral votes, 49%
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« Reply #444 on: October 25, 2012, 07:47:08 PM »

1872

President Horatio Seymour (D-NY)/Vice President Francis Blair (D-MO)-198 EV, 54.3% of the popular vote.
Senator Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME)/Governor Rutherford Hayes (R-OH)-154 EV, 44.9% of the popular vote.
Others (Prohibiton, Greenback, Farmers)-0.8% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #445 on: October 25, 2012, 10:37:07 PM »

Why did you end the previous timeline?
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« Reply #446 on: October 25, 2012, 10:41:55 PM »

Why did you end the previous timeline?
Some of us thought that it was too radically differant and that the political realignments were not realistic. Alternate history still has to be connected from its POD.
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« Reply #447 on: October 25, 2012, 10:55:56 PM »

Why did you end the previous timeline?
Some of us thought that it was too radically differant and that the political realignments were not realistic. Alternate history still has to be connected from its POD.

So the thought of some people affects the timeline of all? That's hardly fair.
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« Reply #448 on: October 25, 2012, 11:10:33 PM »

Why did you end the previous timeline?
Some of us thought that it was too radically differant and that the political realignments were not realistic. Alternate history still has to be connected to its POD.

So the thought of some people affects the timeline of all? That's hardly fair.
This thread had been dead for a long time, and me and Cathcon revived it. The list got so confusing that we thought we would re-revive it with a new list. You are free to contribute or not contribute to the new list, of course. It has a lot more room for more parties, and realignment early on than the last one. What is hardly fair is a massive change from the established but still changeable plot in one post.
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« Reply #449 on: October 25, 2012, 11:39:07 PM »

I would but I don't know the politics of that time.
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