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« on: October 19, 2011, 06:09:52 PM »


Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/Senator Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN) 328 electoral votes, 54.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) 209 electoral votes, 44.8% of the popular vote
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 06:43:01 PM »

So... wait, Goldwater's from Hawaii? And what propelled landslide Lyndon to such a massive victory?
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 03:02:58 PM »


Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) 279 electoral votes
Vice-President Peter Domenici (R-NM)/Senator Warren Rudman (R-NH) 259 electoral votes
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 06:30:11 PM »


Senate Majority Leader Robert S Dole (R-KS)/Senator Warren Rudman (R-NH) 361 electoral votes, 56.7% of the popular vote
President Max Baucus (D-MT)/Vice-President Lowell Weicker (D-CT) 177 electoral votes, 42.1% of the popular vote
Activist Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Activist Winona LaDuke (I-MN) 0 electoral votes, .9% of the popular vote
Others (Socialist, Libertarian) 0 electoral votes, .2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 10:37:13 PM »

OOC: Every game thread I touch dies!!!!!!!

I wanted someone else to do '04 since I did 1996. Especially given I just made up a plan for '08. But I guess I'll do '04.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 10:54:34 PM »

Setting up for 2008 wit dis... "The main failure of the Rudman administration would be a failure to meet expectations. The landslide of 2000 would not yield the seemingly "non-stop prosperity" that people seemed to expect. The recession was slight. And quick. And had recovered by the election. However, all the people were concerned about was that they had elected Rudman with over 60% of the popular vote, and they hadn't gotten all they expected. Nevertheless, Rudman's performances in the debates and Bush keeping the Religious Right on a tight enough leash resulted in Rudman's re-election."
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President Warren Rudman (R-NH)/Vice-President John Ellis Bush (R-FL) 273 electoral votes, 50.1% of the popular vote
Senator Charles Robb (D-VA)/Senator Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 265 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular vote
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 04:57:07 PM »

Woohoo! One from the Whig era! Don't worry, at some point I'll hop on this though right now I'm stressed for time. I'm wondering how we'll handle Civil War stuff and the Westward expansion though.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 05:53:26 PM »


General Winfield Scott (W-NJ)/Former Senator Daniel Webster (W-MA) 149 electoral votes
Secretary of War William L Marcy (D-NY)/Senator William R King (D-AL) 139 electoral votes
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 07:26:33 PM »

Could we make the CW earlier? Like say have some southern states be seceded in 1860 instead of 1864 or something like that?
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 07:15:23 PM »

Vice-President Lodge announces he shall not run for a second term. Picking the man Conservatives had championed for the Vice-Presidential nomination four years ago, Congressman Walter Judd, for Vice-President, Nixon cedes considerable ground to the Conservatives of the party, but to no avail as his shaky first term is not rewarded by re-election to a second.


Senator Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)/Senator Russell B. Long (D-LA) 357 electoral votes
President Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Congressman Walter Judd (R-MN) 181 electoral votes
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 08:29:28 PM »


Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Senator Robert S. Dole (R-KS) 292 electoral votes 49.6% of the popular vote
Vice-President Russell B. Long (D-LA)/Senator Ralph Yarborough (D-TX) 246 electoral votes 48.2% of the popular vote
Congressman John Ashbrook (R-OH)/former Congressman Howard Callaway (R-GA) 0 electoral votes, 1.9% of the popular vote
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2011, 04:03:07 PM »

We should start a new one.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 07:19:38 PM »

I guess I'll try.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 07:53:41 PM »

Failure to end the war in Vietnam--either through negotiation, victory, or withdrawal--proved to be Humphrey's downfall. While he would stand out as the "greatest school desegregator in American history", this would not please the South at all. While Humphrey faced a challenge from anti-war candidate George McGovern, he would trounce him in the primaries, causing McGovern to launch an independent bid for President. The American Independents would nominate former Georgia Governor Lester Maddox and Congressman John Schmitz for President and Vice-President respectively.

For the Republicans, the mood was uneasy. While Nelson Rockefeller seemed the natural nominee, he declined the nomination, instead endorsing his brother, Winthrop Rockefeller of Arkansas, for the Presidency. It was reasoned by many that a candidate who could compete well in the South as well as hold moderates, liberals, and conservatives together could win them the election. Winthrop proved to be that man. With Nelson's warchest, a good ground game in the South, North-East, and Mid-West, and a split opposition, Winthrop would win the nomination. In order to abate the Right of the party, Senator (elected in 1970) Paul Laxalt, a Reagan friend, would be chosen for Vice-President.


Governor Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 318 electoral votes, 45.5% of the popular vote
President Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Vice-President Terry Sanford (D-NC) 176 electoral votes, 40.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor Lester Maddox (AI-GA)/Congressman John G. Schmitz (AI-CA) 36 electoral votes, 8.3% of the popular vote
Senator George McGovern (I-SD)/Senator Frank Church (I-ID) 8 electoral votes, 5.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 07:04:56 PM »

Despite very good coat-tails going into 2009, President McCain found himself unable to deal with the economy as effectively as he had hoped. Following the  "booming nineties" and the much more economically quiet 2000's (despite trouble with gas prices due to affairs in the Middle East), the 2010's would become later known as a decade of recession. With oil prices continuing to expand as McCain's anti-terrorism efforts payed off big, and the famed "Black Christmas" where stock prices in 2009 fell through the floor, McCain's hopes at becoming a successful President were beginning to dim.

2012
Despite foreign policy successes, the economy was the #1 issue in 2012. On the Republican side, Vice-President Jim Demint would be challenged by Congressman Tom Tancredo who was a surrogate of former President Buchanan, and the Liberal Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee of Rhode Island. However, DeMint would easily win the nomination and choose former Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire for Vice-President in order to appease moderates and North-Easterners.

On the Democratic side, moderate Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia would rise from the mass of candidates competing for the nomination and win Iowa. Following that, he would become the front-runner, surging to the head of the pack. Winning the nomination, he chose Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez of California, a fellow moderate and a Latina, for Vice-President.

Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) 363 electoral votes, 53.2% of the popular vote
Vice-President Jim DeMind (R-SC)/Former Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH) 175 electoral votes, 46.7% of the popular vote
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 07:37:58 PM »

The crash was what pushed "Silent Cal" over the edge. Dying of a heart attack only days following the 1929 Stock Market Crash. Vice-President Herbert Hoover was left to clean up the mess. Thanks to lower tariffs passed before Coolidge's death, the "Depression" as it was being called, was nowhere near as bad is it could have been. However, it was bad nonetheless. Democrats would re-take the House of Representatives and the Senate and emerged from the seeming oblivion of the 1928 election. Nominating former Governor Al Smith to "Do what should have been done in 1928", attacks on Smith's faith would prove in vain as the first Catholic candidate on a major party ticket soared to victory over the incumbent Hoover.

Former Governor Alfred E. Smith (D-NY)/Speaker of the House John Nance Garner (D-TX) 401 electoral votes 56.3% of the popular vote
President Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA)/Senator Joseph B. France (R-MD) 130 electoral votes 41.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 07:51:16 PM »

Nancy, I mean Cathcon, are we the only ones on this thread?

Right now. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 07:15:41 PM »

Despite having won a fourth term for the Republicans, MacArthur's second term did not go as well as he or any other Republican had hoped. Plagued by a looming economic recession that many, included Union Party Senate leader Harry Truman blamed on the "Do-Nothing Republican Congress", MacArthur would prove unable to maintain popularity throughout 1949 and 1950. Despite this, MacArthur was seen as an American champion on foreign policy, rolling back communist aggression in Korea and China.

1952
On all sides there would be a clamoring for General Dwight D. Eisenhower, hero of World War II as well as a hero of the "police actions" in China and Korea, to run. However, the General who was personally moderate, had no reason to jump into the fray between the Conservative Republicans and the Progressive Unionists. He decided to sit the election out. Instead, the Republicans nominated Vice-President Taft and rising star Senator Richard Nixon for President and Vice-President. The Unionists nominated their "Flavor-of-the-year" Senator Harry Truman of Missouri for President and Senator Glen Taylor of Idaho for Vice-President. The Democrats nominated Senator Alben W. Barkley for President and the aging Governor-turned-Senator Franklin D. Roosevelt of New York for Vice-President. This would be one last hurrah for the Democrats. In a surprise, a fourth party would enter the fray. Comprised of Senator John Sparkman of Alabama and former Governor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, they would steal precious Southern votes from the Unionists and the Democrats. In an election many would compare to 1856 or 1860, the Union Party elected its first President. One commentator would quip "Today, the Unionists are the Republicans, the States Rights the Know-Nothings and the Democrats the Whigs. So dies another American political party."


Seantor Harry S. Truman (U-MO)/Seantor Glen Taylor (U-ID) 285 electoral votes
Vice-President Robert Taft (R-OH)/Senator Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) 175 electoral votes
Senator Alben W. Barkley (D-KY)/Senator Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY) 44 electoral votes
Seantor John Sparkman (SR-AL)/Former Governor J. Strom Thurmond (SR-SC) 27 electoral votes.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2011, 04:34:20 PM »

NOTE: I shall be referring to them as the Conservative party as was previously mentioned in ChairmanSanchez's post. I believe that as the party becomes more mainstream, it would change its name to a more widely appealing title than something that was meant to appeal strictly to the South.

1984
Over President Kennedy's first term a number of Liberal reforms were passed. While some of his more liberal legislative successes, such as the passage of the legalization of abortion, were not well received by a number of Americans, he was able to win a number over with his foreign policy successes and with the economic recovery under his term. Therefore, there wouldn't be many people running for the Conservative nomination come 1984. the field was headed by three people: Former Vice-President Jackson (WA), Senator Jesse Helms (NC), and Congressman and 1980 Liberty Party VP nominee Jack Kemp (NY). While Jackson initially led in the polls, Helms did well in the primaries and he was able to turn most of the convention delegates in his favor thanks to the political prowess of his team, headed by Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, and Pat Buchanan. For Vice-Presidents, in order to appease a number of delegates, the Northerner former NY Governor James Buckley was nominated.

President Edward M. Kennedy (U-MA)/Vice-President Jerry Brown (U-CA) 390 electoral votes, 56.8% of the popular vote
Senator Jesse Helms (C-NC)/Former Governor James L. Buckley (C-NY) 148 electoral votes, 41.2% of the popular vote
Others, 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2011, 09:03:52 PM »

Armstrong loses his home state?
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 08:06:27 PM »

I got 1900.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 08:17:41 PM »
« Edited: December 09, 2011, 08:52:05 PM by Cathcon »

1900
An election that was incredibly close in the popular vote, despite a comfortable victory for Republicans in the electoral vollege, America returned to the Republicans. However, they had reached the White House with less than 50% of the popular vote and with the uneasy ticket of Fairbanks and Roosevelt, a Conservative and a Progressive. With two opposites in charge, many questioned how the Republicans would shift in the next few years...

Senator Charles W. Fairbanks (R-IN)/Governor Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 267 electoral votes, 47.2% of the popular vote
President William Jennings (D-NE)/Vice-President Arthur Sewall (D-ME) 180 electoral votes, 46.7% of the popular vote
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2011, 09:27:26 PM »
« Edited: December 09, 2011, 09:29:13 PM by Cathcon »

1908
With a successful eight years under Republicans and rumors that former President Bryan would once again run for President, all eyes were on the developments of the 1908 Presidential Election. For the Democrats, former President Bryan was able to win re-nomination, though he would be forced to choose NYC Mayor George McClellan Jr. for Vice-President to appease Easterners and Conservatives. On the Republican side of the aisle, Vice-President Theodore Roosevelt faced a harsh battle with War Secretary William McKinley for the Presidential nomination. With the Conservative Old Guard favoring McKinley, the "radical Roughrider Roosevelt" was denied the nomination. For Vice-President, General Leonard Wood of New Hampshire was nominated to appease Roosevelt who was promised Secretary of War.

The election proved close as McKinley's front porch campaign, while appealing to his base in the Mid West, did nothing to convince Western farmers of his sincerity. As well, Roosevelt's only lukewarm endorsement of McKinley and the rumor that Roosevelt secretly favored Bryan didn't help the Republicans in New York, which proved to be the closest, and deciding, state of the election.

Former President William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Mayor George B. McClellan Jr. (D-NY) 255 electoral votes
War Secretary William McKinley (R-OH)/General Leonard Wood (R-NH) 228 electoral votes
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2011, 09:31:46 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2011, 04:16:43 PM by Cathcon »

24. Grover Cleveland (D-NY)/Adlai E. Stevenson I (D-IL) 1893-1897
25. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Arthur Sewall (D-ME) 1897-1901

26. Charles W. Fairbanks (R-IN)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 1901-1909
27. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/George McClellan Jr. (D-NY) 1909-?
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2011, 06:28:56 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2011, 08:29:28 PM by Cathcon »

1920
Following successful victory in the Great War, Teddy Roosevelt announced, to the surprise of many, that he would not be running for a third term despite the large amount of hype surrounding the idea. He instead supported his Vice-President, General Leonard Wood who won the nomination, choosing humanitarian Herbert Hoover for Vice-President. The Democrats nominated Woodrow Wilson and Lincoln, Nebraska Mayor Charles W. Bryan for President and Vice-President respectively. Finally, the third spoke of the election dropped in. Senator Bob LaFollette of Wisconsin, a challenger to Wood for the nomination and a man even more Progressive than Roosevelt, stepped in under a new "Progressive Party" banner. While Wood was still able to pull off a win in the election, he came second in the popular vote, causing a national controversy.

Vice-President Leonard Wood (R-NH)/Humanitarian Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA) 275 electoral votes, 39.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Mayor Charles W. Bryan (D-NE) 217 electoral votes, 42.3% of the popular vote
Senator Robert LaFollette (P-WI)/Senator William E. Borah (P-ID) 44 electoral votes
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