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pbrower2a
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Margins, Obama vs. Cain, Gingrich, and Romney
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Ohio Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve ............................................................ 43%
Disapprove........................................................ 52%
Not sure ............................................................ 5%
Q12 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Rick
Perry, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama.................................................. 50%
Rick Perry ......................................................... 41%
Undecided......................................................... 10%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama.................................................. 46%
Mitt Romney...................................................... 46%
Undecided......................................................... 9%
The latter is about what I would expect in a state in which the President has a 43% approval rating at the time. Of course Romney will need Ohio with which to win but President Obama has other possibilities that would assure his win. But Rick Perry is showing himself thoroughly unelectable. Romney is electable.
In view of how badly Rick Perry does in Ohio -- that he would lose Ohio by 9% -- it is easy to see why I am going to drop him and start a new thread involving President Obama against Mitt Romney and Herman Cain. Perry has become a travesty, and someone who loses Ohio by by 9% would lose nationwide by about 10%. Perry is going into an electoral collapse as Romney holds his own against President Obama in Ohio. I think that Perry would lose such states as Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, Montana, and the Dakotas, and in view of his unfortunate ties to a pastor who claims that Mormons aren't real Christians, he might lose Utah. He would win Texas only because of the Favorite Son effect. I have just locked the Obama vs. Perry/Romney threads as I now consider Rick Perry in an irreversible collapse.
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Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama.................................................. 48%
Herman Cain..................................................... 45%
Undecided......................................................... 7%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1018.pdf
Herman Cain may be to the right of everyone who has been running for President as a Republican except perhaps Michele (Political rights be damned unless you are a 'conservative' Republican) Bachmann, a borderline fascist. As a black man he can get away with saying things that right-wing white politicians dare not say because nobody will be able to say that he is a racist. I think that he is to electoral politics what Clarence Thomas is to the judiciary.
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Obama vs. Romney
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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recent PPP polls:
WV -- nothing on Obama vs. Cain.
IA -- He leads Herman Cain, 47-41
NE -- nothing on Cain
NC -- nothing on Cain
That goes back a month. PPP apparently didn't take Herman Cain seriously until about a week ago.
Herman Cain may be to the right of everyone who has been running for President as a Republican except perhaps Michele (Political rights be damned unless you are a 'conservative' Republican) Bachmann, a borderline fascist. As a black man he can get away with saying things that right-wing white politicians dare not say because nobody will be able to say that he is a racist. I think that he is to electoral politics what Clarence Thomas is to the judiciary.
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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Some others:
MI, SurveyUSA: Obama 53%, Herman Cain 32%.
FL, Marist/NBC News: 47% Obama 41% Cain
SC, Marist/NBC News: 43% Perry 42% Obama
NY, Siena 58-32 Obama vs. Cain
VA, Quinnipiac: Obama: 45% Cain: 43%
LA, Clarus/WWL-TV (CBS 4, New Orleans): nothing
NH, several: nothing
NJ, Quinnipiac: 47-38 Obama vs. Cain
MD, Gonzalez research: nothing
PA, Magellan: nothing
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney
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Hawaii and Illinois:
Hawaii Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 56%
Disapprove...................................................... 36%
Not sure .......................................................... 8%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 63%
Herman Cain................................................... 30%
Undecided....................................................... 7%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 59%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 32%
Undecided....................................................... 10%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_HI_1020424.pdf
Illinois:
Mitt Romney 38.5% Obama 46.1%
Herman Cain 34.0% Obama 46.3%
http://news.siu.edu/2011/10/101911tew11040.html
In case anyone is still curious after I froze the other margin study that involved Rick Perry, Rick Perry does execrably in both states.
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney
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Tennessee. This state has gone so far to the Right so fast that whatever good I used to say about the state's politics is no longer true.
The plutocratic spirit that got the state sliced and diced in the early 1860s is back in vogue:
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Tennesseans: Cut spending and raise taxes – but not taxes on the rich. Sixty-seven percent favor tax increases
and spending cuts to lower the deficit. But a plurality would spare the rich.
Of course a pure plutocracy is the primary objective of the GOP.
No ambiguity here:
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The Republicans’ leads are slightly greater among likely voters, with 48 percent saying they would vote for Romney
over 30 percent for Obama, 45 percent saying they would vote for Perry over 30 percent for Obama, and 44 percent
saying they would vote for Cain over 30 percent for Obama. Between 11 and 15 percent of likely voters volunteered
that they would vote for neither Obama nor the Republican candidate in the question, and between 11 and 14 percent
said that they didn’t know whom they would vote for or refused to answer, depending on the question.
http://mtsusurveygroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/MTSU_Poll_Fall2011_Report.pdf
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney
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Former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain has jumped to the front of the line among GOP presidential contenders with 28 percent support among Ohio Republicans. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is second with 23 percent, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry is almost at the bottom of the pile with 4 percent.
Cain leads a three-man race with 40 percent, followed by Romney at 33 percent and Perry at 10 percent.
President Barack Obama's job approval rating and re-elect numbers remain underwater among Ohio voters, who disapprove 51 - 43 percent and say 49 - 44 percent the president does not deserve a second term, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.
Despite his negative scores, the president leads potential Republican challengers:
47 - 39 percent over Cain;
45 - 41 percent over Romney;
47 - 36 percent over Perry.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1666&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0
It could be a post-Qaddafi bounce.
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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Can we get maps without your Obama +6 "corrections"?
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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I thought these maps were without the +6.
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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Quote from: Cainmentum on October 26, 2011, 05:08:49 pm
Can we get maps without your Obama +6 "corrections"?
These maps have no "+6 correction" much unlike my old approval maps. They are head-to-head matchups and raw margins. Colors show the intensity of the split, and approval ratings in no way appear on these maps. They may be shown with matchups.
So let us suppose that Cain leads Obama 47-39 in Texas. Three possible guesses for the result are reasonable and fairly easy to explain. One, the easiest, would be to split the difference among the undecided or non-responding amount 50-50. That would give
Cain 54 Obama 46
in the assumption that the undecided would split 50-50.
One would be to split the responses proportionally:
Cain 54.7 Obama 45.3
on the assumption that those who can't make up their minds are either not going to vote or are going to make a protest vote through a vote for a third-party candidate.
It could also be an average of the two, roughly
Cain 54.3 Obama 45.7
You could also have geometric means, logarithmic means, fifth-power means, or even assume that all of the undecided will go one way or the other. You could adjust it any way you want, but you would have to justify your model and its mathematics.
The coming Presidential election has its unique characteristics, most notably that we have the worst economic hardships in over seventy years for which both major Parties will get some of the blame. Who gets the most? Ask again in a year. The President has a far-higher approval rating than Congress even when he has approval ratings around 40%. We have ideologues suggesting that Big Business not hire people so that people will vote for any Republican , and we have people who have no higher objective for the next year than to ensure that President Obama is defeated.
OK -- when it comes to any margin, anything 4% or less is a virtual tie. We should all know that. But if most of the virtual ties lean slightly toward the President, then that still suggests that the President has an advantage in those states. On November 7, 2012 maybe all but one of the virtual ties will have transformed themselves into unambiguous victories for President Obama or for his opponent.
Much will change within a year, and nobody can predict quite how. I just can't see President Obama losing Massachusetts or winning Alabama, or winning Georgia while losing Ohio. I still see this upcoming Presidential election as a variant of the last three Presidential elections, and the margin map for Obama vs. Romney seems to show that so far.
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney
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Arizona, of all places!
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(CNN) - A new survey of Arizona Republicans indicates that Mitt Romney and Herman Cain are tied at the top in the race for the GOP presidential nomination.
And a Rocky Mountain Poll released Wednesday also indicates that President Barack Obama holds a slight advantage over three possible Republican challengers in hypothetical 2012 general election matchups.
The survey indicates that Obama holds a 45-40% margin over Romney in a hypothetical general election showdown, with Obama holding 44-38% advantage over Perry and a 45-38% advantage over Cain. All of Obama's margins are within the poll's sampling error.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/26/poll-romney-cain-on-top-in-arizona/
Post-Qaddafi bump?
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Above 10% the distinctions are effectively moot in a winner-take-all statewide election.
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Obama vs. Romney
Any Republican nominee absolutely must win all of the following states:
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Virginia
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney
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Nevada, PPP... could a huge number of Obama voters of 2008 have moved away, perhaps to Arizona? Casino and hotel workers voted heavily for President Obama.
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Nevada Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 44%
Disapprove...................................................... 53%
Not sure .......................................................... 4%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 49%
Herman Cain................................................... 46%
Undecided....................................................... 5%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 46%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 46%
Undecided....................................................... 8%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_NV_1027513.pdf
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Obama vs. Cain
Obama vs. Romney
Any Republican nominee absolutely must win all of the following states:
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Virginia
to have a chance to win the election.
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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Quote from: pbrower2a on October 26, 2011, 09:31:48 pm
Quote from: Cainmentum on October 26, 2011, 05:08:49 pm
Can we get maps without your Obama +6 "corrections"?
These maps have no "+6 correction" much unlike my old approval maps. They are head-to-head matchups and raw margins. Colors show the intensity of the split, and approval ratings in no way appear on these maps. They may be shown with matchups.
Oh good, thanks.
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He wouldn't need the "race" card. Cain lack of knowledge on US foreign policy and the economy is enough for Obama to wipe the floor with him. On top that, why would he use the "race" card against Romney or Perry?
Do people really think Obama is that desperate?
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney.
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Quote from: thrillr1111 on October 28, 2011, 10:12:21 am
it would be hard for obama to use the race card if cain is the nominee easier if romney and extremely easier if perry is the nominee. i still think romney will be the nominee
Race card? The President recognizes it as a losing proposition.
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PPP, Wisconsin
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Wisconsin Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 44%
Disapprove...................................................... 51%
Not sure .......................................................... 5%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 49%
Herman Cain................................................... 42%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 46%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 43%
Undecided....................................................... 11%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_1028925.pdf
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Above 10% the distinctions are effectively moot in a winner-take-all statewide election.
Obama vs. Cain
Obama vs. Romney
Any Republican nominee absolutely must win all of the following states:
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Virginia
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Re: Margins, Obama vs. Cain and Obama vs. Romney
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Quote from: pbrower2a on October 28, 2011, 07:06:11 pm
PPP, Wisconsin
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Wisconsin Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 44%
Disapprove...................................................... 51%
Not sure .......................................................... 5%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 49%
Herman Cain................................................... 42%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 46%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 43%
Undecided....................................................... 11%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_1028925.pdf
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What do you know? Rasmussen checks in with Wisconsin:
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Election 2012: Wisconsin President
Rick Perry (R) 46% Barack Obama (D) 42% Other 6% Not Sure 6%
Election 2012: Wisconsin President
Mitt Romney (R) 41% Barack Obama (D) 45% Other 7% Not Sure 7%
Election 2012: Wisconsin President
Herman Cain (R) 42% Barack Obama (D) 47% Other 5% Not Sure 7%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/election_2012_wisconsin_president
(I am no longer taking Rick Perry seriously, but even if I did, I would figure that Rasmussen has a transposition error on the results). Rasmussen and PPP apparently concur here, which is amazing. So much for bias!
Above 10% the distinctions are effectively moot in a winner-take-all statewide election.
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Obama vs. Cain
Obama vs. Romney
Any Republican nominee absolutely must win all of the following states:
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Virginia
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Washington (university poll)
If the election for President were held today, and the candidates were (ROTATE
NAMES: Democrat Barack Obama or Republican Rick Perry, for whom would you
vote for?)
Obama - certain 46.4%
Obama – could change 6.1%
Undecided – lean Obama 1.5%
Undecided 5.3%
Undecided – lean Perry 2.1%
Perry – could change 7.9%
Perry – certain 30.7%
Split sample = 469 registered voters, +/- 4.5%, Oct 10-30, 2011
Total: Obama, 54.0% Perry, 40.7%
If the election for President were held today, and the candidates were (ROTATE
NAMES: Democrat Barack Obama or Republican Mitt Romney, for whom would you
vote for?)
Obama - certain 42.4%
Obama – could change 5.8%
Undecided – lean Obama 2.0%
Undecided 9.1%
Undecided – lean Romney 3.3%
Romney – could change 5.5%
Romney – certain 31.9%
Split sample = 469 registered voters, +/- 4.5%, Oct 10-30, 2011
Total: Obama 50.2% Romney 40.7%
...no questions are asked on Obama vs. Cain, who I figure also has no chance in Washington state.
The Texas Tribune had an
internet
poll on Texas, and to make a long story short, President Obama was behind Romney, Perry, and Cain by unremarkable margins. Unfortunately it is an internet poll and I cannot use it because such a poll is inherently unrepresentative.
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/cain-edges-perry-new-uttt-poll/
http://www.washingtonpoll.org/results/103111.pdf
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Obama vs. Romney
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Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Virginia
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North Carlina, PPP:
As last time, North Carolina is a virtual tie, but this time the edge goes slightly (1%) to Mitt Romney even if the President's approval rating is up a bit from last time:
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North Carolina Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 45%
Disapprove...................................................... 50%
Not sure .......................................................... 5%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 45%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 46%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Herman Cain appears for the first time, and he underperforms Romney. This is before any accusations of hanky-panky:
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Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 47%
Herman Cain................................................... 44%
Undecided....................................................... 8%
North Carolina could be easily decided by whether some right-wing third-party candidate pulls more voters away from Mitt Romney than some left-wing candidate pulls voters from President Obama, as in 2008, even if that candidate gets less than 1% of the vote.
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Obama vs. Romney
Any Republican nominee absolutely must win all of the following states:
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Virginia
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Franklin&Marshall, Pennsylvania. It has a huge number of undecided, and it is registered voters. The gaps look like 2008 redux.
http://images.lancasteronline.com/local_old/490491/FranklinMarshallCollegeStatePoll11032011.pdf
Obama 40 - Perry 20
Obama 38 - Santorum 25
Obama 38 - Cain 24
Obama 35 - Romney 26
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More (52%) of the state’s voters believe it is time for a change than believe
President Obama deserves re-election (42%), a perspective that is unchanged since
August. ...
More than one in seven (15%) voters says they are less likely to vote for Mitt
Romney because he is a Mormon, but almost eight in ten (79%) say it makes no
difference. Reluctance to support Romney because of his religion is higher among
Independents (16%) and Democrats (18%) than Republicans (9%).
They're not happy with the results that the President and the politicians get in general, but the GOP alternatives to the President haven't been able to take advantage of economic distress -- yet. The potential Favorite Son Rick Santorum will not do better in Pennsylvania; there is no advantage for a Favorite Son who is political poison.
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Above 10% the distinctions are effectively moot in a winner-take-all statewide election.
Obama vs. Cain
Obama vs. Romney
Any Republican nominee absolutely must win all of the following states:
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
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Maine, PPP. President Obama has a lower approval rating than disapproval by a small margin, but he would win the state by a high-single digit number against Romney and blow out everyone else.
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Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 47%
Disapprove...................................................... 48%
Not sure .......................................................... 5%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 54%
Herman Cain................................................... 37%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 49%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 38%
Undecided....................................................... 12%
The two Maine Congressional districts are much more similar to each other than are the three Congressional districts of Nebraska. That distinction brings neither district in play. One might go by 'only' 8% or 9% against Mitt, though.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_ME_1104.pdf
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First the good news for Republicans seeking to win Ohio:
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Ohio Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 41%
Disapprove...................................................... 49%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%
So they ought to be in good position in which to take the state. All that they need is a candidate who can pick off the 'moderate' and 'independent' vote and win the state perhaps 52-48. Right?
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Q8 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Michele Bachmann, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 51%
Michele Bachmann ......................................... 37%
Undecided....................................................... 12%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 50%
Herman Cain................................................... 39%
Undecided....................................................... 10%
Q10 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Newt Gingrich, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 51%
Newt Gingrich ................................................. 38%
Undecided....................................................... 11%
Q11 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron
Paul, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 50%
Ron Paul ......................................................... 36%
Undecided....................................................... 15%
Q12 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Rick
Perry, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 53%
Rick Perry ....................................................... 36%
Undecided....................................................... 11%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 50%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 41%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Not with this crew. The low approval must be over the economy.
SurveyUSA, Minnesota:
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57-29 Obama/Bachmann
45-39 Obama/Romney
48-35 Obama/Cain
48-35 Obama/Paul
48-35 Obama/Perry
Minnesota may be drifting R from the Humphrey/Mondale era and may no longer be the strongest (1984) or second-strongest (1972) state for Democrats in a GOP blowout. Obama looks weaker here than he was in 2008, but not enough to put the state in play.
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Quinnipiac has polls for Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
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Florida
Pitting President Obama against possible Republican challengers shows:
Romney at 45 percent to Obama's 42 percent;
Obama edging Cain 45 - 41 percent;
Obama at 45 percent to House Speaker Newt Gingrich's 42 percent;
Obama over Texas Gov. Rick Perry 46 - 40 percent.
...
Florida voters disapprove 52 - 41 percent of the job Obama is doing and say 51 - 43 percent that he does not deserve reelection.
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The 2012 presidential face-off in Ohio shows:
Obama at 45 percent to Romney's 42 percent;
Obama topping Cain 48 - 38 percent;
Obama beating Gingrich 49 - 37 percent;
Obama over Perry 48 - 36 percent.
Ohio voters disapprove 50 - 44 percent of the job Obama is doing and split 46 - 48 percent on whether he deserves reelection.
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Pennsylvania
The 2012 presidential matchups in the Keystone State are:
Obama 44 percent to Romney's 43 percent;
Obama tops Cain 48 - 38 percent;
Obama beats Gingrich 48 - 38 percent;
Obama bests Perry 47 - 38 percent.
...
Pennsylvania voters disapprove 52 - 44 percent of the job Obama is doing and say 50 - 46 percent he does not deserve reelection.
In all three states, the economy is the 'biggest issue'. Mitt Romney so far has an edge on that while the economy is in poor shape; maybe voters think that he has some secret miracle. Herman Cain has yet to convince people that he has a viable solution.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1671
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PPP, Mississippi:
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Mississippi Survey Results
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 36%
Disapprove...................................................... 59%
Not sure .......................................................... 5%
The last Democratic Presidential nominee to win Mississippi was Jimmy Carter in 1976. That streak is going to hold for a long time.
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Q8 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Michele Bachmann, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 40%
Michele Bachmann ......................................... 52%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Herman Cain, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 37%
Herman Cain................................................... 54%
Undecided....................................................... 10%
Q10 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Newt Gingrich, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 38%
Newt Gingrich ................................................. 54%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q11 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron
Paul, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 37%
Ron Paul ......................................................... 52%
Undecided....................................................... 12%
Q12 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Rick
Perry, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 38%
Rick Perry ....................................................... 55%
Undecided....................................................... 7%
Q13 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 36%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 54%
Undecided....................................................... 10%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MS_1110834.pdf
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I think you goofed your maps there.
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Quote from: izixs on November 10, 2011, 09:07:03 pm
I think you goofed your maps there.
I most certainly did. Thank you.
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