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heatmaster
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #25 on:
November 10, 2011, 01:26:08 pm »
Getting back to the 2028 election, modify electoral map, where now
Katherine Barnes
receives
55.67%
and carried 39 states, winning
414
to
124
for
Gerald Hoag
of Illinois who carried 11 states and won
42.57%
Here's that map.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #26 on:
November 23, 2011, 04:59:35 pm »
Update I figured if
Howard Davenport
came from the East (in this case Pennsylvania) then he should have an almost clean sweep of the New England and Middle Atlantic states (in this case Delaware and New Jersey) voted for Vice President
Robert Petty
, the
Republican
nominee for President received
242
EV to
296
for
Davenport
.
Here is my map, on differences from the other 2032 map, was that Maine & New Hampshire went for the challenger.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #27 on:
February 15, 2012, 05:17:27 pm »
There is another scenario, by 2028
Katherine Barnes
and her choice to serve as her successor in the Vice Presidency, under the terms of the 25th Amendment, which she invoked in the weeks following her succession to the presidency on December 12, 2024
Edward Morris
, his virtue was that he brought political and geographic balance to a political marriage, he had been Governor of New York for two terms, before the voters of the Empire state, sent him to the United States Senate, he had made necessity a virtue, and his presence on the ticket made New York very friendly territory for the
Barnes-Morris
ticket in 2028. The
GOP
did just as well as the
Barnes-Creighton
ticket in 2012, in that unique of elections the
GOP
won
65%
of the vote and swept every state but Vermont and the District of Columbia, for
532
. Now it was
Katherine Barnes'
turn, she won with
497
Electoral votes, to win forty four of the fifty states, her opponent
Gerald Hoag
carried only Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont and the District of Columbia Here's the 2028 electoral map.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #28 on:
February 15, 2012, 06:46:43 pm »
Within months following her inauguration for her 'own' term
Katherine Barnes
was informed that Vice President,
Edward Morris
was diagnosed with a terminal illness, and that a cure was problematic if not unlikely. Most
Republicans
including the president herself as well as First Gentleman,
Michael Barnes
had harbored hopes that
Morris
was the party's only chance in the 2032 election cycle.
Morris
died by his own hand and once again
Barnes
found that once again after little more than five years, she had to invoke
25
and she looked at
Robert Petty
as an ideal replacement, he came from Ohio, had served in the House for over five terms, he had been appointed as Secretary of State to replace
Charles Stevens
and his flair consummate inside know how was a welcome balm after the feisty maverick, which was
Stevens
. While
Stevens
had served her husband well at Treasury and was like an 'older brother' of sorts to the former president, his manner grated against
Kathy Barnes
who valued loyal team players in her administration above else, a quality which
Petty
had in spades. With
Petty
shunted off to the Vice Presidency,
Katherine Barnes
found a perfect replacement in
Robert Kanin
who been White House Chief of Staff during the single term of her father
Eugene Maxwell
. Then
Kanin
had been her husband's Secretary of Defense for remaining five years of his presidency. Now after well over a decade in the private sector,
Kanin
was to be
Katherine Barnes'
third Secretary of State.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #29 on:
February 15, 2012, 09:29:16 pm »
The 2032 election pitted Vice President
Robert Petty
against Senator
Howard Davenport
of Pennsylvania. Here's the map, it read
296
to
242
.
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Reply #30 on:
February 16, 2012, 07:41:45 pm »
This is cool. Is this like a TL or something?
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #31 on:
February 19, 2012, 01:41:25 pm »
Its based upon a blend of fictional presidents and RL events combined with some made up and borrowed features, from fictional political figures. In my TL, Ronald Reagan dies to be succeeded by George Bush, my original plan was to have Jerry Ford take the Vice Presidential role, but I figured if he was reluctant to take the plunge at the GOP convention in Detroit in July of 1980 and therefore Bush opts for a more conventional and political choice in Bob Dole, who Jerry Ford very likely recommends. Henry Chandler is a composite of a RL Bill Clinton, as well as Andrew Shepherd, I used two fictional presidents names and combined them together and Kentucky was ideal from the point of view, there was another fictional president called Oliver Russell in Best Laid Plans and he came from Kentucky, the other figures are fictitious, Michael Barnes is a composite of Matt Santos (Texas), and James Marshall from Air Force One, and like the Manchurian candidate, is the off-spring of a powerful political figure, Barbara Barnes, who gives up her Senate seat in the 2002, to allow her son then a rising 36-year-old two term Texas Congressman to seek that same senate seat. Her retirement was prompted by the events of 9/11 when her husband dies on one of the planes which plows into the twin towers. Mike Barnes (has just six years in the Senate), Barack Obama (four years in Senate) and decides to run for President in 2008 on the cusp of his fortieth birthday. Like Obama uses the internet to build up a huge financial war chest in advance of the primaries and despite his youth, Barnes using his Persian Gulf War hero Status (Ala John McCain in RL) as well as his public speaking skills wows the American people, as in RL the financial meltdown makes Barnes' election more inevitable and dooms the incumbent Democratic president to an electoral whipping on November 4.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #32 on:
February 22, 2012, 09:54:37 am »
The other scenario I have pictured for the 2028 election was that
Katherine Barnes
and
Edward Morris
in defeating the
Democratic
nominee, Senator
Tom Neal
of Florida, did so by winning 39 states, and garnered
441
electoral votes to
97
for
Jensen
. Winning 55% of the vote. Here's my map for such a victory.
441 Barnes
97 Neal
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #33 on:
February 22, 2012, 04:50:14 pm »
We could go on and on....like the energizer bunny, apparently no contributions have come in from fellow members of the forum, not up to the challenge guys? Thought somebody might try to expand on the story line in the TL I have been pounding on, well here's another scenario concerning the elections involving, the first woman President to win election since the founding of the current political system, remember it is sixteen years into the future, not much of a stretch really when you consider the changes we have seen since 1996.
Here goes, The other scenario I have pictured for the 2028 election was that
Katherine Barnes
and
Edward Morris
in defeating the
Democratic
nominee, Senator
Tom Neal
of Florida, did so by winning 42 states, and garnered
462
electoral votes to
76
for
Neal
who carried 8 states and DC.
Barnes
carried 55% of the vote. Here's my map for such a victory.
462
for
Katherine Barnes
76
for
Thomas Neal
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #34 on:
February 22, 2012, 05:20:56 pm »
As you can see according to the scenario I have painted,
Edward Morris
had proven to be a inspired choice and his selection under the twenty-fifth, which
Barnes
was required to do in the early weeks of her tenure. She had as you will observed according to my TL succeeded to the Presidency, when
Timothy Wheeler
was assassinated by terrorists as he disembarked 'Marine One' one the South Lawn of the White House on December 12, 2024. The event occurred between the reelection of
Wheeler
&
Barnes
(November 5, 2024) and the planned second inauguration for Monday, January 20 2025. The
GOP
had smashed the
Democrat's
sacrificial lamb Governor
Andrew Morrison
of California who only garnered
69
Electoral Votes in that contest. Now four years later
Barnes
and
Morris
had a fresh mandate.
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Reply #35 on:
February 23, 2012, 02:07:57 am »
Interesting scenario. Keep it up
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Richmond
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Reply #36 on:
February 23, 2012, 02:10:24 am »
Quote from: IDS Legislator Pingvin on February 23, 2012, 02:07:57 am
Interesting scenario. Keep it up
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #37 on:
March 01, 2012, 05:25:10 pm »
There was another scenario in which President
Timothy Wheeler
and Vice President
Katherine Barnes
won an even larger lopsided victory over
Andrew Morrison
, the electoral configuration had the
Republicans
carrying 48 states and won
521
EV to
17
for
Morrison
. Here is the map.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Richmond
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Reply #38 on:
March 01, 2012, 10:45:31 pm »
Quote from: heatmaster on March 01, 2012, 05:25:10 pm
There was another scenario in which President
Henry Wheeler
and Vice President
Katherine Richmond
won an even larger lopsided victory over
Nathan Samuels
, the electoral configuration had the
Republicans
carrying 48 states and won
521
EV to
17
for
Samuels
. Here is the map.
Balls! What happened to the Democrats ITTL?
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Richmond
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Reply #39 on:
March 11, 2012, 02:45:57 pm »
Quote from: heatmaster on March 04, 2012, 10:05:04 am
ITTL Democrats lose the plot during the 2020s and there persistence in nominating the likes of Nathan Samuels, a typical New York liberal, who happens to be of Jewish extraction, doesn't help there cause against Henry Wheeler, who runs presidential campaigns, the same way he ran his races for Governor in Texas, the dirty way helps send the Samuels effort to oblivion. Jon Morrison, does a little better against Katherine Richmond four years later, but not much. On paper he is the perfect candidate for the Democrats and his midwestern roots enable him to launch a credible campaign against the incumbents. But it is "National Security Stupid" which prevent the likes of Samuels and Morrison from gaining traction. To be fair I noticed there is to much emphasis on how successful Democrats are on the forum, and they are treated like the party are the best thing since sliced bread, when I see that Republicans are treated equally as well as Democrats, well then just maybe....
I know what you mean
. We are indeed outnumbered here
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #40 on:
March 20, 2012, 06:58:12 pm »
Quote from: Jerseyrules on March 01, 2012, 10:45:31 pm
Quote from: heatmaster on March 01, 2012, 05:25:10 pm
There was another scenario in which President
Henry Wheeler
and Vice President
Katherine Barnes
won an even larger lopsided victory over
Harry Jensen
, the electoral configuration had the
Republicans
carrying 48 states and won
521
EV to
17
for
Jensen
. Here is the map.
Balls! What happened to the Democrats ITTL?
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #41 on:
June 28, 2012, 10:29:35 am »
I have painted the following scenario, on Sunday, July 2, 2023 President
Timothy Wheeler
dies, from wounds when terrorists attack as "Marine One" lands on the south lawn of the White House; Vice President,
Katherine Barnes
assumes office, as 49th President of the United States;
Barnes
will be America's first woman President; she's the spouse of a living former President,
Michael "Mike" Barnes
. Mrs.
Barnes
will likely be a candidate for election in 2024; her first task will be to find a suitable nominee to fill out the the Vice presidential vacancy.
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Reply #42 on:
June 28, 2012, 01:38:18 pm »
Cool. Good to see this back
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #43 on:
June 28, 2012, 02:21:42 pm »
The 2024 presidential election was underway, and the
Republican party
, nominated President
Katherine Barnes
and her Vice President,
Edward Morris
:
Barnes
, had designated
Morris
as her replacement in the Vice Presidency under the terms of the 25th Amendment:
Morris
, had been chosen not only for his geographical appeal, he came from New York, and had served as Governor of the Empire State, before going onto the United States Senate:
Morris
, was seen as the future of the
GOP
, as the fractious confirmation hearings over a year before had demonstrated;
Democrats
recognized this fact, by the stiff resistance they launched during the
Morris
confirmation hearings: now with the
Barnes-Morris
ticket decided, a month after the
Democrats
had selected Senator
Tom Neal
of Florida to be there standard bearer. The
Barnes
-
Neal
contest would be the most bitter in recent memory.
Here was the 2024 Electoral map:
462
for
Katherine Barnes
76
for
Thomas Neal
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Reply #44 on:
June 28, 2012, 03:37:10 pm »
I'd love to see the updated map after the 2020 census.
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Re: Fictional U.S. President called Mike Barnes
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Reply #45 on:
June 28, 2012, 04:39:42 pm »
By the time of
Katherine Barnes'
inauguration on Monday January 20 2025, speculation was mounting on her intentions regarding 2028, but her plans and intentions would be subject to how the political landscape shaped up in advance of the next presidential election.
Edward Morris
was likely to chafe under the dominance of
Barnes
and her husband, who was a powerful political figure in his own right.
Morris
was now even more unhappy by the fact that Secretary of State,
John Petty
, now offered another obstacle to
Morris'
political ambitions:
Petty
had served long side both
Katherine Barnes
and
Edward Morris
in the United States Senate, representing the voters of California, in that illustrious body.
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Reply #46 on:
June 28, 2012, 06:37:53 pm »
Outcome of the 2024 Presidential election, another scenario: The 2024 presidential election was underway, and the
Republican party
, nominated President
Katherine Barnes
and her Vice President,
Edward Morris
: ,
Barnes
had designated
Morris
as her replacement in the Vice Presidency under the terms of the 25th Amendment:
Morris
, had been chosen not only for his geographical appeal, he came from New York, and had served as Governor of the Empire State, before going onto the United States Senate:
Morris
, was seen as the future of the
GOP
, as the fractious confirmation hearings over a year before had demonstrated;
Democrats
recognized this fact, by the stiff resistance they launched during the
Morris
confirmation hearings: now with the
Barnes-Morris
ticket decided, a month after the
Democrats
had selected Senator
Thomas Neal
of Florida to be there standard bearer. The
Barnes
-
Neal
contest would be the most bitter in recent memory.
Here was the 2024 Electoral map:
469
for
Katherine Barnes
69
for
Thomas Neal
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Reply #47 on:
June 28, 2012, 08:47:05 pm »
The 2028 presidential election campaign, was a contest of many twists and turns: Vice President
Edward Morris
, was emerging as the most likeliest candidate to face the
Paul Henderson
:
Morris
however died suddenly from a massive coronary on August 25, 2028: his death prompted the President
Barnes
, to select former Secretary of State,
John Petty
to replace
Morris
as Vice President:
Petty
had been neck and neck with
Morris
during the
Republican
presidential primaries:
Petty
became the
GOP
nominee by default. The
Henderson
-
Petty
contest was a bitter and fractious one, the outcome of the 2028 election is illustrated in the following map.
285
for
Paul Henderson
.
253
for
John Petty
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Reply #48 on:
June 28, 2012, 10:46:54 pm »
By 2032,
Katherine Barnes
had good reason to regret her decision in stepping aside in 2028: many
Republicans
shared this view and were prepared to embrace the idea of the former President, challenging
Democratic
incumbent,
Paul Henderson
. Finally
Barnes
decided to enter the
Republican
primaries, she faced
John Petty
and
Thomas Jackson
of California: but she saw off these challenges and emerged with sufficient delegates to secure a first ballot nomination:
Barnes
selected
Jackson
as her Vice Presidential running mate and so the
Barnes-Jackson
ticket faced the
Henderson-Kent
. The election contest: it would be the first time in 140 years in which the two major party nominee's were both Presidents.
394
electoral votes for
Barnes-Jackson
144
electoral votes for
Henderson-Kent
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Katherine Barnes
was not constrained by promises or commitments as she began her second term: she was free also from the concerns or worries of reelection, as the twenty-second Amendment, the same amendment which barred
Dwight Eisenhower
,
George H.W. Bush
,
Henry Chandler
and
Michael Barnes
from seeking or serving more than two terms. Despite assumptions of her being consigned to lame duck status at the moment of her inauguration,
Katherine Barnes
was quite effective during most if not all of her presidential term; she was able to reverse most of the
Henderson
administration policies; what she failed to achieve by legislative initiative, she utilized the presidential prerogative of executive order to implement policies. Her record in office, burnished her credentials as a can-do chief executive and her popularity, ensured that her Vice President,
Thomas Jackson
, would have an easy ride towards
Republican
Party's presidential nomination in 2036.
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