Quebec General Election 2012 (4th September)

[RogueBeaver]

And the By-election might as well be over... if you read the Gazette:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Liberal+candidate+likely+winner+Monday+election+Bonaventure/5785230/story.html

The Greens are really trying to mess around in everyones business ain't they

We always knew that Arsenault (now there's a necromanced dynasty if I've ever seen one ) would win. If the PQ can up their vote share by 7-8% then that takes some pressure off Marois.

[lilTommy]

And the By-election might as well be over... if you read the Gazette:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Liberal+candidate+likely+winner+Monday+election+Bonaventure/5785230/story.html

The Greens are really trying to mess around in everyones business ain't they

We always knew that Arsenault (now there's a necromanced dynasty if I've ever seen one ) would win. If the PQ can up their vote share by 7-8% then that takes some pressure off Marois.

I'm rather impressed that QS has managed 9%, if in a rural Liberal riding they can pull 3 times what they did last time, you will see more QS members in L'Assemblee Nationale
Pour Quoi Regressist?

[RogueBeaver]

And the By-election might as well be over... if you read the Gazette:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Liberal+candidate+likely+winner+Monday+election+Bonaventure/5785230/story.html

The Greens are really trying to mess around in everyones business ain't they

We always knew that Arsenault (now there's a necromanced dynasty if I've ever seen one ) would win. If the PQ can up their vote share by 7-8% then that takes some pressure off Marois.

I'm rather impressed that QS has managed 9%, if in a rural Liberal riding they can pull 3 times what they did last time, you will see more QS members in L'Assemblee Nationale
Pour Quoi Regressist?

Khadir will probably get some company in the next Assembly IMO, but only in Montreal ridings like Gouin. QS is a splinter group for far-left, pur et durs Peqs. So yeah, they're regressive.

[lilTommy]

And the By-election might as well be over... if you read the Gazette:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Liberal+candidate+likely+winner+Monday+election+Bonaventure/5785230/story.html

The Greens are really trying to mess around in everyones business ain't they

We always knew that Arsenault (now there's a necromanced dynasty if I've ever seen one ) would win. If the PQ can up their vote share by 7-8% then that takes some pressure off Marois.

I'm rather impressed that QS has managed 9%, if in a rural Liberal riding they can pull 3 times what they did last time, you will see more QS members in L'Assemblee Nationale
Pour Quoi Regressist?

Khadir will probably get some company in the next Assembly IMO, but only in Montreal ridings like Gouin. QS is a splinter group for far-left, pur et durs Peqs. So yeah, they're regressive.

I agree there, they wont win outside Gouin and perhaps SMSJ...Rosemont should be targetted since Beaudoin is an indie, and if she runs splits that Peqs vote. Hocehlaga-Maisonneuave should be a target since its hard french and relatively poor but looks like an incumbent. Odd, no peqs were evern part of the formation of QS... and their "sovereignty" is a means-to-an-end, rather then an ends-as-a-means approach... am i reading that wrong? From here, QS is the only progressive voice in quebec these days

[MaxQue]

QS isn't progressive.
With their proposals, they would kill some industries, like mining and tourism.
Their economical policies are flirting with communism and they put environment above all, even workers.

[RogueBeaver]

Now if only these people were a party, I'd vote for them. The PLQ, PQ and CAQ wants to tinker with the obsolete Orange Model, they (and the ADQ) want to jettison it and replace it with a Blue Model.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/30/barbara-kay-taking-down-quebecs-gouvernemaman/

[Hatman 🍁]

It should be noted that the Bonaventure portion of the federal riding its in was the most pro NDP part.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

QS isn't progressive.
With their proposals, they would kill some industries, like mining and tourism.
Their economical policies are flirting with communism and they put environment above all, even workers.

that IS left-wing and progressive.

[MaxQue]

QS isn't progressive.
With their proposals, they would kill some industries, like mining and tourism.
Their economical policies are flirting with communism and they put environment above all, even workers.

that IS left-wing and progressive.

So-called progressive, because that is regressist.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

My original post was longer but it was deleted...

[Hatman 🍁]

Here is my by-election preview: http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.com/2011/12/bonaventure-provincial-by-election.html

[RogueBeaver]

Bump. Reminder that the Bonaventure polls close in a few hours. French media will have coverage.

[RogueBeaver]

Red meat for the Peq base.

http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/337667/defense-du-francais-le-pq-veut-forcer-la-main-au-gouvernement-charest

[Hatman 🍁]

3 polls in

Arsenault, Damien (P.L.Q./Q.L.P.)   36   54,55 %   15
Roy, Sylvain (P.Q.)   21   31,82 %   
Chartier, Patricia (Q.S.)   3   4,55 %   
Painchaud, Georges (A.D.Q.)   3   4,55 %   
Cloutier, Jean (P.V.Q./G.P.Q.)   2   3,03 %   
Zibeau, Martin (IND)   1   1,52 %   

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

live results from?

[RogueBeaver]

http://monvote.qc.ca/partielles/en/resultatsPreliminaires.asp

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Thanks

[MaxQue]

From the wild swings, it seems than the riding is quite polarized.

[RogueBeaver]

From the wild swings, it seems than the riding is quite polarized.

If the Peqs underperform from 2008, we'll see another wave of anti-Marois sentiment within caucus. One of those defectors said 10 were reportedly waiting to jump ship, waiting only on tonight's results (which I'll believe when I see, and in any case it won't save them from the Purple Crush).

[RogueBeaver]

4-5 point improvement over '08. Status quo within the PQ caucus for now.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

what were the 08 results?

[RogueBeaver]

64-29 in 2008, and that was the PQ's high tide of the decade province-wide. Right now it's 50-37, which helps Marois in the short-medium term if these results hold.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

BONAVENTURE

Last update: 21:45:32
Number of polling stations:  126 / 126
 
Candidates and
political affiliation   Valid votes   Percentage of valid ballots (%)[2]   Majority
Arsenault, Damien (P.L.Q./Q.L.P.)   7 887   49,46 %   1 952
Roy, Sylvain (P.Q.)   5 935   37,22 %   
Chartier, Patricia (Q.S.)   1 422   8,92 %   
Painchaud, Georges (A.D.Q.)   365   2,29 %   
Cloutier, Jean (P.V.Q./G.P.Q.)   205   1,29 %   
Zibeau, Martin (IND)   131   0,82 %   
 
Valid ballots:   15 945   99,04 %   
Rejected ballots:   154   0,96 %   
Total voter turnout:   16 099       
Registered electors:   29 510       
Voter turnout:   54,55 %   

[RogueBeaver]

8 pt improvement for the PQ over '08, PLQ under 50. So she'll be spinning a moral victory for the next while.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

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