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Quebec General Election 2012 (4th September)
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Topic: Quebec General Election 2012 (4th September) (Read 31217 times)
RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #400 on:
July 24, 2012, 12:21:52 pm »
Depends on the vote split. This is a time where I really wish we had exit polls so you could see the breakdowns... but alas, I'm sure Hatman and Funke will do that for us.
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
lilTommy
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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July 24, 2012, 12:45:32 pm »
Quote from: C'est demain que j'avais 20 ans on July 24, 2012, 12:13:32 pm
QS winning more than two seats barring some phenomenal surge which seems quite unlikely, would be a massive upset and anybody who seriously thinks they could win more than 2 at this point is certainly delusional or a hack who should smell the coffee. I seriously doubt the QS vote will end up being 9-10% on election day anyway.
well we've seen massive "upsets" in Quebec haven't we as of late; i jsut don't think you can discount anything. Khadir won Mercier in a three way vote split; this election you will see 4 way splits, especially in MTL. QS has been performing pretty steady, consistently at about double if not triple what they received provincewide in 08... this will have almost no effect outside the three seats they can win... both at the expense of the PQ
It just feels like the PQ are not winning people over, even as the strongest opposition to the liberals they just don't seem to be catching fire,Marois should have been taken out when they had their chance. CAQ and QS haven't really caught on either... but the election hasn't started yet so i think thats when people will really start to pay attention.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #402 on:
July 24, 2012, 12:49:35 pm »
Marois should have been taken out? By whom? She's their best and only option. I agree that there's little enthusiasm behind her but when was the last time either the Pelqs or Peqs had genuine enthusiasm behind them?
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
lilTommy
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #403 on:
July 24, 2012, 12:57:28 pm »
Quote from: Romney/Ryan 2012! on July 24, 2012, 12:49:35 pm
Marois should have been taken out? By whom? She's their best and only option. I agree that there's little enthusiasm behind her but when was the last time either the Pelqs or Peqs had genuine enthusiasm behind them?
... hmmm you've got me there, i'd say never?
I'd go with only option
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #404 on:
July 24, 2012, 01:01:58 pm »
The last time the Peqs had genuine enthusiasm was probably 1994. PLQ... I dunno, 1973? 1962?
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Senator MaxQue
MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #405 on:
July 24, 2012, 02:11:52 pm »
Quote from: lilTommy on July 24, 2012, 12:45:32 pm
Quote from: C'est demain que j'avais 20 ans on July 24, 2012, 12:13:32 pm
QS winning more than two seats barring some phenomenal surge which seems quite unlikely, would be a massive upset and anybody who seriously thinks they could win more than 2 at this point is certainly delusional or a hack who should smell the coffee. I seriously doubt the QS vote will end up being 9-10% on election day anyway.
well we've seen massive "upsets" in Quebec haven't we as of late; i jsut don't think you can discount anything.
QS vote will suffer from the same problem than NDP in 2008 in Quebec. They had good poll numbers through the campaign, but, the vote approching, their vote went down, because of strategical voting.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #406 on:
July 24, 2012, 02:16:59 pm »
Huh? I thought that was Parizeau's job.
http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/355239/l-independance-du-quebec-est-une-urgence-dit-bernard-landry
Another star PQ candidate.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201207/24/01-4558421-bernard-genereux-candidat-du-pq-dans-blainville.php
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Senator MaxQue
MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #407 on:
July 24, 2012, 03:11:19 pm »
PQ recruitment is quite impressive in many areas of Quebec.
The CAQ recruitment is worse than expected.
Liberal recruitment is very bad, but, that isn't surprising.
In my Abitibi region, the party with the best recruitment is CAQ, through.
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Hatman
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #408 on:
July 24, 2012, 08:50:08 pm »
Quote from: C'est demain que j'avais 20 ans on July 24, 2012, 12:13:32 pm
QS winning more than two seats barring some phenomenal surge which seems quite unlikely, would be a massive upset and anybody who seriously thinks they could win more than 2 at this point is certainly delusional or a hack who should smell the coffee. I seriously doubt the QS vote will end up being 9-10% on election day anyway.
While I agree they probably wont win more than 2 seats, I can't help but giggle, because you could easily replace QS with "NDP" and have the same quote from April 2011.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #409 on:
July 24, 2012, 09:01:15 pm »
One star Peq candidate confirmed.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201207/24/01-4558552-leo-bureau-blouin-confirme-sa-candidature.php
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #410 on:
July 25, 2012, 09:44:44 am »
Liberals finally get a star candidate.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201207/25/01-4558639-lex-batonnier-gilles-ouimet-avec-les-liberaux.php
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #411 on:
July 25, 2012, 11:55:22 am »
RDI's QP has devoted their entire show to LBB's candidacy. LOL.
CAQ star candidate?
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/politique/201207/25/01-4559401-le-dr-gaetan-barrette-necarte-pas-un-avenir-politique.php
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Senator MaxQue
MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #412 on:
July 25, 2012, 02:29:38 pm »
Quote from: Romney/Ryan 2012! on July 25, 2012, 11:55:22 am
CAQ star candidate?
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/politique/201207/25/01-4559401-le-dr-gaetan-barrette-necarte-pas-un-avenir-politique.php
That guy has no creditibility. People I know call him "the obese doctor on TV".
Especially than he is complaining than 200.000$ isn't enough for a specialist doctor or the like....
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #413 on:
July 25, 2012, 02:40:22 pm »
At least that bubble was popped. There are few people in provincial politics I dislike more than Legault, mostly because of that godawful "reform" (which I narrowly escaped) he and Marois pushed through in the last PQ government.
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Senator MaxQue
MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #414 on:
July 25, 2012, 03:08:58 pm »
Quote from: Romney/Ryan 2012! on July 25, 2012, 02:40:22 pm
At least that bubble was popped. There are few people in provincial politics I dislike more than Legault, mostly because of that godawful "reform" (which I narrowly escaped) he and Marois pushed through in the last PQ government.
From younger people I know, the reform isn't bad. It isn't good neither. To assess the full effect, we must wait than they reach the work market.
Already, we saw than there is no difference in college marks.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #415 on:
July 25, 2012, 08:52:45 pm »
Claire Samson will be a CAQ candidate, per RDI.
Peqs definitely swept the starstakes this cycle.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/pq-surrounds-marois-with-star-candidates/article4441521/
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #416 on:
July 26, 2012, 03:29:01 pm »
Liberals kick off in Quebec next week.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201207/26/01-4559741-lancement-de-la-campagne-des-mercredi-prochain.php?
Not this time, unfortunately.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201207/26/01-4559699-vote-dans-les-cegeps-et-universites-fecq-et-feuq-insistent.php?
Another PQ star candidate.
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/politique-quebecoise/201207/26/01-4559632-djemila-benhabib-candidate-dans-trois-rivieres.php?
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Sibboleth
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #417 on:
July 26, 2012, 03:33:10 pm »
Fix those links please.
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #418 on:
July 26, 2012, 03:38:04 pm »
Done.
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Sibboleth
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #419 on:
July 26, 2012, 03:42:59 pm »
diolch
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
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MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #420 on:
July 26, 2012, 05:54:40 pm »
Oh, CAQ shows great coherancy again.
One local candidate here voted for a motion at Témiscamingue MRC council for a scolarity fee freeze and a bonification of the financial aid system (which passed, by the way).
CAQ isn't coherent on the national question, neither it is on the policies.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #421 on:
July 26, 2012, 06:06:25 pm »
CAQ is a joke. At least Dumont wasn't boring.
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Senator MaxQue
MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #422 on:
July 26, 2012, 11:04:51 pm »
Radio said than a CAQ internal, by CROP is saying Libs 31, PQ 30, CAQ 24.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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Reply #423 on:
July 26, 2012, 11:34:00 pm »
Apparently the Grits are at 22 among Francophones. Which sounds like a PQ majority to me.
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Senator MaxQue
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Re: Quebec 2012/2013
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July 26, 2012, 11:38:16 pm »
Quote from: Romney/Ryan 2012! on July 26, 2012, 11:34:00 pm
Apparently the Grits are at 22 among Francophones. Which sounds like a PQ majority to me.
For me too. It's too low to come in the middle because of the CAQ-PQ divide in suburbs and too much of their 31% in concentrated in the same ridings (West Island, anglos areas elsewhere).
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