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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 01:38:52 pm »
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The thing with Pat Quinn also is that his ads are just killing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ywchTJ-F0
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2014, 08:16:04 pm »
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The thing with Pat Quinn also is that his ads are just killing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ywchTJ-F0

Have you seen this one?

http://youtu.be/ZxYuooVPVZQ
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2014, 08:18:47 pm »
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Good to see the King of Greed being turned into lunchmeat.
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2014, 12:36:42 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2014, 01:20:42 pm »
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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2014, 07:43:59 pm »
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Still don't believe this happened.  Quinn loses yet Brownback survives.
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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2014, 09:05:54 pm »
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Still don't believe this happened.  Quinn loses yet Brownback survives.
It's really not that surprising. Rauner was no Brady or Romney despite attempts to paint him as such, and Quinn was an epic failure by pure record and ran a crappy, desperate campaign.

This probably would've happened earlier in 2010 if the Illinois Republican Party didn't screw up their choice of candidate.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2014, 07:14:01 am »
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Just saw "Pat Quinn" under the "Recent deaths" in Wikipedia and was quite shocked. Turns out it's some other Pat Quinn.
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2014, 03:42:47 pm »
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Still don't believe this happened.  Quinn loses yet Brownback survives.
Scott survives also; that's more shocking. Brownback is just a crazy fool, but Scott's actually a criminal.

Just saw "Pat Quinn" under the "Recent deaths" in Wikipedia and was quite shocked. Turns out it's some other Pat Quinn.

I was also shocked briefly. But it's a Canadian sportsperson, not Gov. Quinn.
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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2014, 12:30:41 am »
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I like Rauner.
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2014, 12:00:03 pm »
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So do I. Bruce Rauner is a big improvement over Pat Quinn, who wasn't an effective governor at all. In addition, Pat Quinn completely screwed up with his handling of the taxation and budgetary issues that Illinois is facing and did nothing to reduce the unemployment rate in Illinois, which is still one of the highest in the country.
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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2014, 12:42:59 pm »
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So do I. Bruce Rauner is a big improvement over Pat Quinn, who wasn't an effective governor at all. In addition, Pat Quinn completely screwed up with his handling of the taxation and budgetary issues that Illinois is facing and did nothing to reduce the unemployment rate in Illinois, which is still one of the highest in the country.


Hopefully he is able to reduce the power of the unions despite the democrats having a majority in the general assembly.
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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2014, 04:15:27 pm »
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Pat Quinn ran on recall reform in 2010, as it turned out, he wasn't the reform agent that the patrons of Illinois was looking for. Madigan, not Quinn was the reform agent that Dems were looking for.

Rauner on the other hand was the G O P's reform choice. And we are looing forward to a different result against Kirk in 2016 with Duckworth and Democratic nominee for gov in 2018,
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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2014, 07:02:00 pm »
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Madigan being an agent of reform is laughable at best.
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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2014, 04:49:10 pm »
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It is not all bad for Pat Quinn.  After all, he did get to serve several years as Rod B's Lt Gov.
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2014, 05:03:04 pm »
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The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.
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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2014, 05:49:00 pm »
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The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

RIP Illinois
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« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2014, 05:55:56 pm »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.
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« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2014, 06:02:56 pm »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

Disgusting.
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« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2014, 07:16:31 pm »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

Disgusting.


Disgusting that it isnt higher?



The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

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If he wasnt cockblocked by a democrat controlled legislature beholden to the unions and leftist environmentalist groups, Illinois's economy would of been able to do the reforms it needs.
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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2014, 07:29:44 pm »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

Disgusting.


Disgusting that it isnt higher?



The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

RIP Illinois


If he wasnt cockblocked by a democrat controlled legislature beholden to the unions and leftist environmentalist groups, Illinois's economy would of been able to do the reforms it needs.

Ok we get it: you're a right-wing troll. You can leave now. No one is interested in hearing your talking points.
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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2014, 07:35:26 pm »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

Disgusting.


Disgusting that it isnt higher?



The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

RIP Illinois


If he wasnt cockblocked by a democrat controlled legislature beholden to the unions and leftist environmentalist groups, Illinois's economy would of been able to do the reforms it needs.

Ok we get it: you're a right-wing troll. You can leave now. No one is interested in hearing your talking points.
Then should we also ban you for being a left-wing troll?
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« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2014, 08:09:07 pm »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

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Disgusting that it isnt higher?



The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

RIP Illinois


If he wasnt cockblocked by a democrat controlled legislature beholden to the unions and leftist environmentalist groups, Illinois's economy would of been able to do the reforms it needs.

Ok we get it: you're a right-wing troll. You can leave now. No one is interested in hearing your talking points.


Actually if you search up the current fiscal problems in illinois.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/23/usa-illinois-sp-idUSL2N0PY29A20140723

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/21/usa-illinois-pensions-idUSL2N0TB2EY20141121

The unions are a huge roadblock towards reform and just kicking the can down the road isnt going to make the problem go away.

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Nov 21 (Reuters) - A judge ruled on Friday that an Illinois law aimed at easing the state's huge unfunded pension liability is unconstitutional, handing a victory to labor unions and state retirees who challenged the law and an initial defeat to the state's efforts to fix its sagging finances.

The judge's sweeping ruling will send the case to the Illinois Supreme Court for a final determination on the law's constitutionality. The Illinois Attorney General's Office, which is defending the law, said it will ask the high court for an expedited appeal.
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« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2014, 11:32:22 am »
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He won 60.3-35.5 outside of Cook.

Disgusting.


Disgusting that it isnt higher?



The state of Illinois should be forever praised for throwing out Pat Quinn. With Bruce Rauner, the Illinois economy will come roaring back.

You're delusional if you think lame-duck Bruce Rauner will bring the Illinois economy back singlehandedly Roll Eyes

RIP Illinois


If he wasnt cockblocked by a democrat controlled legislature beholden to the unions and leftist environmentalist groups, Illinois's economy would of been able to do the reforms it needs.

Growth in government spending ends in one of two ways: either, the government will not, or cannot spend any more. Once you understand some limit will be reached some day, opting for the former makes more sense. The politicians in Illinois have rigged the system in favor of the latter. The fiscal situation in Illinois is unsustainable, untenable and highly resistant to reform.

The real question is how soon Illinois' death spiral begins, and, how quickly that death spiral accelerates. As businesses realize taxes in Illinois will only go up, they will flee, leaving the remaining businesses in an even more untenable position. The economy of Illinois will be hollowed out well before the state goes bankrupt.

As a number of Republican gubernatorial candidates fell behind in the fall, Quinn's passing Rauner in the polls troubled me the least. I was completely comfortable letting the Democrats "own" what's next for Illinois.
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« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2014, 06:21:14 pm »
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Madigan being an agent of reform is laughable at best.

Lisa Madigan is the most regarded politican in Illinois after cleaning up the Attny General office that Jim Ryan left corrupt after the License for Bribe Scandle under George Ryan. That's why she was elected in the first place, and Jim Ryan lost his bid for Gov.


As for Bruce Rauner property and tax reform is his number one goal, but the Democratic legislature will supercede anything else he accomplish and he wont be in the spotlight come 2016 senate matchup/Prez race and 2018 Gov, where I expect Madigan and Vallas to take him out.
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