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« on: June 25, 2019, 07:18:16 AM »

https://www.politico.eu/article/council-of-europe-backs-russias-return/

Their membership was stripped over the annexation of Crimea. Good news all, looks like it's going to be peace in our time.

Pathetic and cowardly move by the Europeans, and will hurt Ukraine's pro-Western stance more than I think most people realize - many Ukrainians are already upset about the pressure and conditionality being put on them by the West, but feel they have no other choice. If they feel that they are just going to be thrown under the bus, Europe will lose its greatest geopolitical win since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2019, 07:30:01 AM »

Europe is run by clowns.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2019, 10:37:13 AM »

It's not like this wasn't inevitable...

Everyone knows Crimea is going to stay with Russia. Hell, most the people living there are Russian, so why would they ever return to Ukraine.

I'm not saying it is just or right, but there's nothing that can be done about it, especially when there is a precedent that territories with other ethnic groups can break away...
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2019, 11:51:36 AM »

Same thing happened in 2000, though at that time Russian delegation was stripped because of Chechen war only for a year.

This time... I'd said it's mostly fault of Russian enemies in PACE. They could helped prolong sanctions against Russia, if acted smartly. For example, huge reason for Russian return is Russian contributions to PACE (60 000 000 $). Baltic countries and Ukraine could pay this sum. Utter incompetency of Ukrainian delegation probably hadn't help
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2019, 02:29:52 PM »

Just want to point out, in case of some people getting confused, the Council of Europe is a distinct entity from the European Union, having little power as compared to the latter.

It's obviously a terrible decision, given Russia plainly doesn't meet requirements for the membership. At this rate they might just as well admit Belarus.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2019, 07:21:13 PM »

Just want to point out, in case of some people getting confused, the Council of Europe is a distinct entity from the European Union, having little power as compared to the latter.

It's obviously a terrible decision, given Russia plainly doesn't meet requirements for the membership. At this rate they might just as well admit Belarus.

Yea it is totally useless just like the CIS is. I remember seeing maps as kid in the 1990's and they labelled the ex USSR as the CIS.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2019, 10:47:55 AM »

Just want to point out, in case of some people getting confused, the Council of Europe is a distinct entity from the European Union, having little power as compared to the latter.

It's obviously a terrible decision, given Russia plainly doesn't meet requirements for the membership. At this rate they might just as well admit Belarus.

Yea it is totally useless just like the CIS is. I remember seeing maps as kid in the 1990's and they labelled the ex USSR as the CIS.

I wouldn't call the Council of Europe "useless" just because of that admitelly terrible decision. It did have a positive effect on fostering democracy in Europe over the years.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 11:20:20 PM »

Russia pays lots of money to the Council's budget. But all Council's decisions are not mandatory, it is a subsidiary political organization.
Zelensky having claimed his addiction to democratic values, Ukraine is sure to be a faithful ally of Western civilization in the nearest future.
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