Israel general discussion

[Hnv1]

I assume Yisrael Beiteinu?

Never saw it, it's also not really a party. Their position is they don't care, it's not an issue for their voters. Russians are either atheists or hardcore converts to orthodoxy. Reform Judaism didn't really reach them.

Honestly I don't care either, not for the reforms or for this matter

[DavidB.]

Yeah, Yisrael Beiteinu. I know their voters don't care but was still interested, because I do care and YB taking a position I really couldn't stomach would be a disappointment to me.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Yeah, Yisrael Beiteinu. I know their voters don't care but was still interested, because I do care and YB taking a position I really couldn't stomach would be a disappointment to me.

I'm not sure, but I think they supported the compromise and made noises of disapproval when it was rejected, along with the conversion reform (which IS important to their voters since the Chief Rabbinate is disgustingly cruel to Russian immigrants).

[Santander]

http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.801194

Israeli government negotiating Hajj flights from Tel Aviv to Jeddah for Israeli Muslims.

[NewYorkExpress]

http://jewishjournal.com/news/israel/222404/jared-kushner-israeli-palestinian-peace-may-no-solution/

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I'm not sure it's politic to tell anyone there's no solution to the longest running Middle East crisis.

[Hnv1]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

[NewYorkExpress]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

That's not good... who would take over if Netanyahu stepped down/was convicted? Avigdor Lieberman?

[SATW]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

Let's see if an indictment actually happens. I'm still doubtful it will. If it does, he needs to resign. But, until that day (if it ever comes), I still think a lot of this nonsense is unsubstantiated.

Israeli Police are an utter joke when it comes to political corruption and are, imo, much more corrupt than the politicians themselves.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

Let's see if an indictment actually happens. I'm still doubtful it will. If it does, he needs to resign. But, until that day (if it ever comes), I still think a lot of this nonsense is unsubstantiated.

Israeli Police are an utter joke when it comes to political corruption and are, imo, much more corrupt than the politicians themselves.

It's pretty obvious that Netanyahu is corrupt to the bone, and there seems to be hard evidence. In fact, it's been obvious for a long time, just like it's obvious that Lieberman is corrupt in even worse ways.

[MaxQue]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

Let's see if an indictment actually happens. I'm still doubtful it will. If it does, he needs to resign. But, until that day (if it ever comes), I still think a lot of this nonsense is unsubstantiated.

Israeli Police are an utter joke when it comes to political corruption and are, imo, much more corrupt than the politicians themselves.

It's pretty obvious that Netanyahu is corrupt to the bone, and there seems to be hard evidence. In fact, it's been obvious for a long time, just like it's obvious that Lieberman is corrupt in even worse ways.

He also tries to ban media critical of him.

[SATW]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

Let's see if an indictment actually happens. I'm still doubtful it will. If it does, he needs to resign. But, until that day (if it ever comes), I still think a lot of this nonsense is unsubstantiated.

Israeli Police are an utter joke when it comes to political corruption and are, imo, much more corrupt than the politicians themselves.

It's pretty obvious that Netanyahu is corrupt to the bone, and there seems to be hard evidence. In fact, it's been obvious for a long time, just like it's obvious that Lieberman is corrupt in even worse ways.

He also tries to ban media critical of him.

If you are referring to Al Jazeera, that's complete B.S. He is not trying to shut them down because of criticism  but because of their sponsorship of terror.

[MaxQue]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

Let's see if an indictment actually happens. I'm still doubtful it will. If it does, he needs to resign. But, until that day (if it ever comes), I still think a lot of this nonsense is unsubstantiated.

Israeli Police are an utter joke when it comes to political corruption and are, imo, much more corrupt than the politicians themselves.

It's pretty obvious that Netanyahu is corrupt to the bone, and there seems to be hard evidence. In fact, it's been obvious for a long time, just like it's obvious that Lieberman is corrupt in even worse ways.

He also tries to ban media critical of him.

If you are referring to Al Jazeera, that's complete B.S. He is not trying to shut them down because of criticism  but because of their sponsorship of terror.

So, the same baseless lie peddled by the real sponsor of terrorism, Saudi Arabia.

[Hnv1]

Netanyahu's former CoS flipped and became a key witness for the prosecution in 2 criminal investigations (one of corruption), indictment is inbound. The glorious leader appears determined to refuse to go as the law (not a statute though but it doesn't matter as we are a common law country) requires. His political partners are lukewarm about playing the role of ushering him out, so we might be heading into quite a political and constitutional conundrum (some like myself will also predict some military conflict inbound)

Let's see if an indictment actually happens. I'm still doubtful it will. If it does, he needs to resign. But, until that day (if it ever comes), I still think a lot of this nonsense is unsubstantiated.

Israeli Police are an utter joke when it comes to political corruption and are, imo, much more corrupt than the politicians themselves.

Sorry but the evidence is pretty solid, if it were anyone but him he would have been behind bars months ago. The manuscripts of his talks with the editor of Yediot prove corruption allegations beyond any reasonable doubt by them self

[America Needs R'hllor]

Prime Minister Netanyahu took days to disavow the neo-nazis, marching on the streets and shouting that "Jews won't replace us". He took days to discover that "everyone needs to oppose this". And he didn't even squeak about Trump's terrible response to it- I do wonder how he'd respond to Obama botching his response to nazis in the same way.
Meanwhile, MK Oren Hazan, who is himself a ridiculous attempt to mimick Trump, said that "Trump is right about violence on both sides". He equated people who shout nazi and terribly antisemitic warcries to leftist protestors.
And then there's Netanyahu's son and heir apparent, Yair, who posted that the nazis are "a thing of the past" and that the real threat is antifa.

I'm sorry, but the Israeli right is morally bankrupt. I will never vote for Likud, at least not until it's cleansed of elements such as Oren Hazan, Miri Regev and yes, Benjamin Netanyahu.

[Kingpoleon]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

[America Needs R'hllor]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

Nope, this won't hurt Netanyahu. I believe he's going to be indicted soon, so the likeliest scenario in the next election is another Likud coalition, probably with a different leader. But I just felt so much disgust when I saw people who claim to be the most zionist in the world fail so much at disavowing Nazis out of pure political interest.

[Kingpoleon]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

Nope, this won't hurt Netanyahu. I believe he's going to be indicted soon, so the likeliest scenario in the next election is another Likud coalition, probably with a different leader. But I just felt so much disgust when I saw people who claim to be the most zionist in the world fail so much at disavowing Nazis out of pure political interest.

Ze'ev Elkin, Tzachi Hanegbi, Avi Dichter, Miri Regev, or Nir Barkat are my ideal choices to replace Netanyahu, though I suspect Erdan or Edelstein will succeed Netanyahu.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

Nope, this won't hurt Netanyahu. I believe he's going to be indicted soon, so the likeliest scenario in the next election is another Likud coalition, probably with a different leader. But I just felt so much disgust when I saw people who claim to be the most zionist in the world fail so much at disavowing Nazis out of pure political interest.

Ze'ev Elkin, Tzachi Hanegbi, Avi Dichter, Miri Regev, or Nir Barkat are my ideal choices to replace Netanyahu, though I suspect Erdan or Edelstein will succeed Netanyahu.

You truly want Prime Minister Miri Regev? She's the complete opposite of most politicians you seem to support. That would really make me start planning how to immigrate.

[Kingpoleon]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

Nope, this won't hurt Netanyahu. I believe he's going to be indicted soon, so the likeliest scenario in the next election is another Likud coalition, probably with a different leader. But I just felt so much disgust when I saw people who claim to be the most zionist in the world fail so much at disavowing Nazis out of pure political interest.

Ze'ev Elkin, Tzachi Hanegbi, Avi Dichter, Miri Regev, or Nir Barkat are my ideal choices to replace Netanyahu, though I suspect Erdan or Edelstein will succeed Netanyahu.

You truly want Prime Minister Miri Regev? She's the complete opposite of most politicians you seem to support. That would really make me start planning how to immigrate.

I don't support her at all on immigration or Palestine, but so many other issues come into play when dealing with a party as bad as Likud. If Likud were to elect a female who supports SSM and LGBT+ rights, I truly believe it would keep the... worse elements of Likud from stepping forwards.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

Nope, this won't hurt Netanyahu. I believe he's going to be indicted soon, so the likeliest scenario in the next election is another Likud coalition, probably with a different leader. But I just felt so much disgust when I saw people who claim to be the most zionist in the world fail so much at disavowing Nazis out of pure political interest.

Ze'ev Elkin, Tzachi Hanegbi, Avi Dichter, Miri Regev, or Nir Barkat are my ideal choices to replace Netanyahu, though I suspect Erdan or Edelstein will succeed Netanyahu.

You truly want Prime Minister Miri Regev? She's the complete opposite of most politicians you seem to support. That would really make me start planning how to immigrate.

I don't support her at all on immigration or Palestine, but so many other issues come into play when dealing with a party as bad as Likud. If Likud were to elect a female who supports SSM and LGBT+ rights, I truly believe it would keep the... worse elements of Likud from stepping forwards.

Regev IS the worst elements, a populist loudmouth who basically wears a personality which, as she herself admitted, appeals to the "warm Likud members". Her allegedly moderate position on LGBT rights is shared by many Likud members, and like all of them, including MK Amir Ohana (who's gay himself), she never votes or does anything substantial to help the LGBT community. She's a fraud and in my opinion would be worse than Trump.

[SATW]

I like Regev, but I don't think she should be PM. I'll likely keep supporting Bibi unless he's indicted. Ideally, I want Nir Barkat to succeed Bibi as PM.

[Famous Mortimer]

My comments are basically being randomly deleted at this point.

[Famous Mortimer]

http://forward.com/opinion/380384/richard-spencer-might-be-the-worst-person-in-america-but-hes-right-about-is/?attribution=tag-article-listing-1-headline

[Horus]

http://forward.com/opinion/380384/richard-spencer-might-be-the-worst-person-in-america-but-hes-right-about-is/?attribution=tag-article-listing-1-headline

Excellent article.

[Kingpoleon]

Parrotguy, do you think the next election will see a coalition of Zionist Union, Kulanu, and Yesh Atid? Or would Meretz probably have to be included?

Nope, this won't hurt Netanyahu. I believe he's going to be indicted soon, so the likeliest scenario in the next election is another Likud coalition, probably with a different leader. But I just felt so much disgust when I saw people who claim to be the most zionist in the world fail so much at disavowing Nazis out of pure political interest.

Ze'ev Elkin, Tzachi Hanegbi, Avi Dichter, Miri Regev, or Nir Barkat are my ideal choices to replace Netanyahu, though I suspect Erdan or Edelstein will succeed Netanyahu.

You truly want Prime Minister Miri Regev? She's the complete opposite of most politicians you seem to support. That would really make me start planning how to immigrate.

I don't support her at all on immigration or Palestine, but so many other issues come into play when dealing with a party as bad as Likud. If Likud were to elect a female who supports SSM and LGBT+ rights, I truly believe it would keep the... worse elements of Likud from stepping forwards.

Regev IS the worst elements, a populist loudmouth who basically wears a personality which, as she herself admitted, appeals to the "warm Likud members". Her allegedly moderate position on LGBT rights is shared by many Likud members, and like all of them, including MK Amir Ohana (who's gay himself), she never votes or does anything substantial to help the LGBT community. She's a fraud and in my opinion would be worse than Trump.

She's the highest ranking member I know of to support LGBT rights, and she's not an "old guard" extremist.