Israel general discussion

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Since I don't know much about Israeli politics, why did Kadima collapsed so badly?

I don't think they've been an especially effective opposition. There's also a new Labour leader and then there's the return of social issues (as in: issues about the structure of society and social policy) to the political landscape. Kadima doesn't have much to say about that subject. Also, parts of the Israeli electorate are very volatile.

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2009 results for the purposes of comparison: Kadima 28, Likud 27, YB 15, Labour 13, Shas 11. So, yeah. These numbers are pretty horrific for Kadima.

For further comparison, Likud won 38 seats in 2003, but other than that you have to go back to the 1988 election (when they won 40 seats) to see them do as well, though they did take 32 in 1996. Labour haven't managed more than 20 seats since 1996 (when they won 26 seats. Yeah, yeah. Also in an electoral pact with some smaller parties, whateversky).

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I don't see it in the poll data.

Think that might mean that he's polling less than the margin of error.

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Maybe they use dice?

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Mofaz is not very popular then?

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Has labour ever won a government in Israel?

Is that an April Fool question?

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hahaha

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Once again, thanks for the update.

Can you please explain how Kadima droppepd so low...

A read through this entire thread ought to answer that question.

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Perhaps Independence will merge with Kadima, so that Barak can be its leader. That would be amusing.

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Meretz at 11% with Labour and Hadash stable? Encouraging.

11 seats, rather than 11%. That's about 8-9% or so.

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He's Israel's very own Nick Clegg.

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He's Israel's very own Nick Clegg.

If there's any consolation with this coalition, it's how Clegg has become a verb. 

See, it has a cultural legacy that isn't entirely destructive!

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Happily a piece of jargon doth exist for such outfits: 'personalist'.

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Is Bibi pulling a Sharon a serious possibility?

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Presumably everyone has seen the news today, but, anyway, not good.

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Amongst everything else it is a rare contemporary example of actual overpopulation.

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Israeli National Student Union which is a nurturing home for bland politicos.

I do like how certain things are the same, world over...

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Let CiF style 'debate' remain on CiF and let Atlas be Atlas.

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Ehud Barak is almost dead on back to Labour.

As a wise man once said, aaaaayyyy lmao.

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#itshappening

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Sound familiar?

It sounds familiar because journalists are a lazy bunch these days and tend to write the same article about very different situations with only the names changed. Everything in all countries everywhere is now an allegory about Trump, apparently. Yawn.

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Amos Oz has died.