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Gustaf
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« Reply #200 on: November 16, 2011, 06:41:49 PM »

Yes, yes, I'm well aware. But I think there is a very big difference between Marxism as a theory to explain politics or sociology or things like that and as an economic theory.

I think there's probably an even bigger difference between Marxism as a theory that explains (on its own) anything, and the better forms of academic Marxism. I actually don't think the former has much (any?) use these days, the latter would be different.

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink
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« Reply #201 on: November 16, 2011, 07:17:51 PM »

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink

Sort of like painting-by-numbers? Tongue Grin
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« Reply #202 on: November 17, 2011, 03:14:22 AM »

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink

Sort of like painting-by-numbers? Tongue Grin

Since we aren't marxists the outcomes aren't pre-determined, so no. Wink
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« Reply #203 on: November 17, 2011, 08:57:55 AM »

Marxism in academia never went away (hey, the most respected English language historian pretty much ever - at least within the profession - is a Marxist).

who is this referring to?  Hobsbawm?
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« Reply #204 on: November 17, 2011, 09:32:03 AM »

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink

Sort of like painting-by-numbers? Tongue Grin

Since we aren't marxists the outcomes aren't pre-determined, so no. Wink

Oh good lord.  You think you right-wingers don't bring your pre-conceived agenda to your 'studies'?
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« Reply #205 on: November 17, 2011, 09:34:50 AM »

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink

Sort of like painting-by-numbers? Tongue Grin

Since we aren't marxists the outcomes aren't pre-determined, so no. Wink

Oh good lord.  You think you right-wingers don't bring your pre-conceived agenda to your 'studies'?

I prefer to call them "studies". 'studies' makes them sort of halfway between dubious and proper.

And I always avoid pre-conceiving. At the most, I'll consider post-conceiving when appropriate.
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« Reply #206 on: November 17, 2011, 10:09:38 AM »

Marxism in academia never went away (hey, the most respected English language historian pretty much ever - at least within the profession - is a Marxist).

who is this referring to?  Hobsbawm?

Of course.
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« Reply #207 on: November 17, 2011, 10:11:14 AM »

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink

Sort of like painting-by-numbers? Tongue Grin

Since we aren't marxists the outcomes aren't pre-determined, so no. Wink

lol

You should have a look at some of the cruder stuff from the Marxist revival in the 1970s. Most has aged really badly...
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« Reply #208 on: November 17, 2011, 10:19:31 AM »

Well, you're moving in territory that is largely alien to me. In economics all theories try to explain something. Wink

Sort of like painting-by-numbers? Tongue Grin

Since we aren't marxists the outcomes aren't pre-determined, so no. Wink

lol

You should have a look at some of the cruder stuff from the Marxist revival in the 1970s. Most has aged really badly...

Sure, PM me a link.

(I remember reading some text from the 70s by one of my philosophy professors where he argued in favour of terrorism against innocents, as long as it was directed against imperialism)
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