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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2012, 05:07:34 AM »

Does the shape of a Democratic presidential primary in 2016 really change whether Obama wins or loses? I'm starting to think it really won't.
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2012, 04:14:35 PM »

Does the shape of a Democratic presidential primary in 2016 really change whether Obama wins or loses? I'm starting to think it really won't.

Not really.  Hillary Clinton will be the nominee in any case.
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2012, 04:41:15 PM »

Does the shape of a Democratic presidential primary in 2016 really change whether Obama wins or loses? I'm starting to think it really won't.

Not really.  Hillary Clinton will be the nominee in any case.

I disagree. Greatly disagree. Because I am quite certain that Clinton will not be running for President in 2016.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2012, 06:44:45 PM »

It really depends on Hillary.  If she runs, then the 2016 D primary could look something like the 2012 R primary: the presumptive nominee challenged by various ideological purists backed by a growing activist base demanding single payer, punishing taxes on Wall Street, and a national right to gay marriage (assuming that hasn't happened yet), though they will have a bit more credibility than Romney's rivals.  Warren is obviously a possibility- there will be movements to draft her whether or not she wins in November- O'Malley is in as I understand it, Feingold might take a shot, we would see some lesser-known liberal Senators and Congresspeople try to make a splash in the debates.  Maybe Kucinich would be back.  Not sure how Cuomo would find space in that primary, except as a more-moderate-than-Hillary option that basically camps out in NH.
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2012, 08:03:09 PM »

If Hillary ran, the 2016 would not be like the 2012 R primary.

If anything, it would more resemble the 1980 Republican Primary. There being a very clear and obvious frontrunner that is also very strong.

All a moot point though because Hillary won't run.
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2012, 11:07:26 PM »

If Hillary ran, the 2016 would not be like the 2012 R primary.

If anything, it would more resemble the 1980 Republican Primary. There being a very clear and obvious frontrunner that is also very strong.

All a moot point though because Hillary won't run.
You have no idea what she'll do.
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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2012, 01:11:36 AM »

If Hillary ran, the 2016 would not be like the 2012 R primary.

If anything, it would more resemble the 1980 Republican Primary. There being a very clear and obvious frontrunner that is also very strong.

All a moot point though because Hillary won't run.
You have no idea what she'll do.

Well, she could always change her mind. I admit I cannot predict the future with perfect confidence. However, based on current attitudes, a 2016 presidential run is extremely unlikely.
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2012, 02:12:46 AM »

If Hillary ran, the 2016 would not be like the 2012 R primary.

If anything, it would more resemble the 1980 Republican Primary. There being a very clear and obvious frontrunner that is also very strong.

All a moot point though because Hillary won't run.
You have no idea what she'll do.

Well, she could always change her mind. I admit I cannot predict the future with perfect confidence. However, based on current attitudes, a 2016 presidential run is extremely unlikely.
No it isn't. She's the SoS. She shouldn't be talking about her political future right now. Only her, and maybe Bill probably have an idea at this point.
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