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Question: The Electoral College votes should be ...
#1
apportioned using the total census population in each state (D)
 
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apportioned using the total census population in each state (R)
 
#3
apportioned using the total census population in each state (I/O)
 
#4
apportioned using only the US citizen census population in each state (D)
 
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apportioned using only the US citizen census population in each state (R)
 
#6
apportioned using only the US citizen census population in each state (I/O)
 
#7
Undecided (D)
 
#8
Undecided (R)
 
#9
Undecided (I/O)
 
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Tender Branson
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« on: July 15, 2012, 11:55:04 AM »

What do you think ?

And has anyone ever made an electoral vote map on here of citizen-only census population ?

I guess the last one available would be the 2000 data, because the 2010 citizen data has not yet been released.

I also think states like CA, TX, NY and FL would lose quite a few EC votes, while states like MI, OH, PA etc. would gain some seats ...

I think it would not be a bad idea, because it's only the citizens who actually vote - but on the other hand, the new President also impacts the life of the non-citizens.

Voted "Undecided".

I'm actually more interested in the map, if anyone has ever made one.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 12:12:35 PM »

If I provide the statistics for 2000, can anyone (maybe Muon) create a "citizen-only" EV map ?

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It also seems the 2010 Census didn't even ask for citizenship. Weird.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 10:51:34 PM »

MI, OH, and PA already have enough influence Tongue
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muon2
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 08:14:57 PM »

If I provide the statistics for 2000, can anyone (maybe Muon) create a "citizen-only" EV map ?

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It also seems the 2010 Census didn't even ask for citizenship. Weird.

If you have the populations I can give you a new set of EVs.

The 2010 Census only asked those questions which are used for reapportionment and redistricting. In some Censuses the question was asked but other times it was not. In 2009 an amendment to include the question on the Census was defeated in the Senate. The exclusion was based in part on the apportionment clause in the Constitution, but in many states CVAP is the measure used to assess VRA compliance, so it certainly would apply to the redistricting step.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 06:15:17 PM »

I prefer option number one.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 09:36:18 PM »

I think that based on Registered Voters is the most accurate way of ensuring "one vote, one value"
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Peter the Lefty
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2012, 07:51:26 PM »

Nonexistent. 
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2012, 08:40:46 PM »

Voting Age Citizen population would be the best.
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