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« on: November 06, 2011, 11:49:40 PM »

John Brown. What is your opinion of the man?
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 11:54:37 PM »

Clearly a terrorist, and just as clearly a freedom fighter.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 12:00:08 AM »

A great American.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 05:29:05 AM »

I like his last written words. And the beard he grew late in life, of course.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 07:10:43 AM »

Clearly a terrorist, and just as clearly a freedom fighter.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 08:30:49 AM »

He went about aboloitionism the wrong way.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 11:09:24 AM »

Kind of sucked at the terrorism part, too.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 11:45:14 AM »
« Edited: November 07, 2011, 11:47:05 AM by A Piece of Ass »

An advocate of murder.

Then again I'm the type of person who believes that killing is wrong, regardless of political agenda.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 12:22:58 PM »

I tend towards the opinion that murdering multiple people in cold blood makes you an auto-HP.  But then I'm just racist like that.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 02:31:51 PM »

FF, but I dont support terrorism. And that, in the end, is what he is. A terrorist. None the less, I vote FF.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 02:33:05 PM »

     He was pretty much the abolitionist equivalent of Eric Rudolph; ergo an HP.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2011, 03:16:41 PM »

What America needs today.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 04:03:03 PM »


What homicidal maniacs who advocate murder to advance their political ideology?

Am I the only person who thinks this is a completely deranged idea?  Oh wait, I'm talking about the nation that throws trillions of dollars towards bombing third world nations and oil exporters back to the Stone Age.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 04:53:42 PM »

Systems founded on violence are very rarely overthrown peacefully, Mech.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 05:07:13 PM »

Meh, hard to say. He did fight to end slavery, and I applaud him for that, but he went about doing so in completely the wrong way. He was a crazy terrorist and killed innocent people, but his purpose was just. He's a little of both.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2011, 05:07:28 PM »

While some heroes are more of the Superman kind, others are more of a Batman. He was clearly the latter.
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2011, 11:45:13 AM »

John Brown was simply a madman who convinced idealists of a utopian future that could not exist. He was a tool of Eastern business interests (in the form of his Boston backers like Henry Ward Beecher) to acheive a long-shot goal. I do not think this makes him a hero, it simply makes him a mercenary. Those who argue that he fought against slavery need to find other heroes because Brown never killed a slaveowner (but he did kill a few free black men at Harper's Ferry). He was taken down by unarmed marines and given a trial where he got to spew some bile and hang. In the end he is given far too much credit for what he was worth.

An interesting tidbit is that John Brown's father taught Jesse Root Grant (Ulysses Grant's father) the trade of tanning. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2011, 03:14:43 PM »

Systems founded on violence are very rarely overthrown peacefully, Mech.
...which, of course, is what Brown was actually trying to do (comparatively peacefully. And seeing how events turned out...)
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