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« on: November 10, 2011, 07:49:55 am »
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 08:01:47 am »
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 10:21:22 am »
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Quote from: Some Platypus that I used to know on November 10, 2011, 08:01:47 am
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I once started a poll called Gary Johnson's origin, as I wanted to know if he's Hispanic.
(The answer is obviously "no".)
Having been asked why I stated such a question, I replied that, in my estimation, Johnson looks like a Hispanic, and in this case he could become the first Hispanic vice-presidential nominee in case Ron Paul wins the primaries.

That comment of mine has been deleted, defying any explanation, and to top it all off I even received 6 (six) infraction points.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 10:26:20 am »
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That comment of mine has been deleted, defying any explanation, and to top it all off I even received 6 (six) infraction points.
Why?

Oh, because the moderators are incredibly idiotic. Next question...
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 10:29:00 am »
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That comment of mine has been deleted, defying any explanation, and to top it all off I even received 6 (six) infraction points.
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Oh, because the moderators are incredibly idiotic. Next question...

I hope you won't get banned for that comment.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 03:07:35 pm »
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No.  It is by definition discriminatory, but it isn't necessarily hateful.  When I discriminate between nickels and dimes prior to rolling my coins, choosing nickels to fit into the fatter paper rolls and dimes to fit into the skinnier ones, it is not based on hate.  Same with noting hispanic:  unless I think everyone looks hispanics, then I am discriminating.  Hate is another issue.  And hate can be discriminatory or non-discriminatory.  I know some real assholes who hate everyone, for example.

Also, as an aside, it can be tricky to identify those who "look hispanic."  Have you ever been to Spain?  Lots of folks there are Hispanic--Like, 88 percent of the population, basically everyone except the African, Gipsy, and British minorities --but most of them are of the type you'd not probably not identify as "looking hispanic" I'd imagine. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 03:25:24 pm »
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Quote from: Howard Dean's voice on November 10, 2011, 10:29:00 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on November 10, 2011, 10:26:20 am
Quote from: Howard Dean's voice on November 10, 2011, 10:21:22 am
That comment of mine has been deleted, defying any explanation, and to top it all off I even received 6 (six) infraction points.
Why?

Oh, because the moderators are incredibly idiotic. Next question...

I hope you won't get banned for that comment.

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 04:11:51 pm »
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No, not in this case if the facts are as described. Not at all.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 04:40:40 pm »
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Quote from: Howard Dean's voice on November 10, 2011, 10:29:00 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on November 10, 2011, 10:26:20 am
Quote from: Howard Dean's voice on November 10, 2011, 10:21:22 am
That comment of mine has been deleted, defying any explanation, and to top it all off I even received 6 (six) infraction points.
Why?

Oh, because the moderators are incredibly idiotic. Next question...

I hope you won't get banned for that comment.

Don't worry. Veteran members can troll without any consequences.

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 05:42:54 pm »
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I've figured out the "mistake".

I ought to have written:

He looks Hispanic, instead of He looks like a Hispanic.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 05:58:08 pm »
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Quote from: Howard Dean's voice on November 10, 2011, 05:42:54 pm
I've figured out the "mistake".

I ought to have written:

He looks Hispanic, instead of He looks like a Hispanic.

Or better yet, either of those instead of "Johnson looks a bit like a spic", which is what you actually said.  Nice attempt at revisionism, though.

And what Mikado said.
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Quote from: Joe Republic on November 10, 2011, 05:58:08 pm
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I've figured out the "mistake".

I ought to have written:

He looks Hispanic, instead of He looks like a Hispanic.

Or better yet, either of those instead of "Johnson looks a bit like a spic", which is what you actually said.  Nice attempt at revisionism, though.

And what Mikado said.

And as I suggested, the facts matter don't they?  Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 06:04:08 pm »
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And as I suggested, the facts matter don't they?  Smiley

How am I to know that?
English is not my mother tongue, and I'm not good at speaking your language.

If someone feels offended I apologize to them.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 06:20:15 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 06:26:29 pm »
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How did you learn the word 'spic'?

During my school exchange to Texas ten years ago, and via YouTube.

I always thought spic were a short form of Hispanic.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 07:45:22 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 08:08:19 pm »
...You made one of your previous usernames Miezefotze.  Please don't hide behind the "I'm a German speaker, my stuff might be offensive in English because I'm not fluent" thing, you're clearly offensive in German too.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 08:30:20 pm »
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You posted this same thread on the Atlas subforum. You know the first time I saw this I thought you were misguided and accidentally mis-spoke because you are German. Then when I told you the word you used was offensive you challenged me on it, in stead of saying "oh, sorry". Only after I googled it, did you say "how was I supposed to know" (not even "oh sorry") Now I find this thread? And, I find this thingy Mikado has pointed out? I'm starting to think this is less of an accident and more of you trying to stir up trouble.
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...You made one of your previous usernames Miezefotze.  Please don't hide behind the "I'm a German speaker, my stuff might be offensive in English because I'm not fluent" thing, you're clearly offensive in German too.

Also there was the whole thing about fascists being good because they cared about their autochthonous populations.
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2011, 08:37:19 pm »
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...You made one of your previous usernames Miezefotze.  Please don't hide behind the "I'm a German speaker, my stuff might be offensive in English because I'm not fluent" thing, you're clearly offensive in German too.

Also there was the whole thing about fascists being good because they cared about their autochthonous populations.

Wait a minute........WHAT?
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 08:39:27 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 08:49:47 pm »
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...You made one of your previous usernames Miezefotze.  Please don't hide behind the "I'm a German speaker, my stuff might be offensive in English because I'm not fluent" thing, you're clearly offensive in German too.

Also there was the whole thing about fascists being good because they cared about their autochthonous populations.

PRO Deutschland and Freiheit are all through democratic parties.
Your reproach of fascism is unjustified.
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