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Elyski
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« on: August 27, 2011, 06:03:00 pm »
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1949: FDP
1953: CSU
1957: CSU
1961: CSU
1965: CSU
1969: CDU
1972: CSU
1976: CDU
1980: CSU
1983: CDU
1987: CDU
1990: CDU
1994: CDU
1998: Alliance 90'
2002: CSU
2005: CSU
2009: CSU
Next: CSU
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2011, 06:17:24 pm »
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You'd move in and out of Bavaria on a regular basis?

(also 1949 as the only FDP vote looks kind of... bad... because of the... sort of people... who... did that... in reality...)
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2011, 06:24:44 pm »
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FDP all the way, probably.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2011, 09:54:11 am »
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2011, 08:58:52 pm »
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Quote from: Sibboleth on August 27, 2011, 06:17:24 pm
You'd move in and out of Bavaria on a regular basis?

(also 1949 as the only FDP vote looks kind of... bad... because of the... sort of people... who... did that... in reality...)
Yes I do move in and out of Bavaria. Why? I don't know?
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2011, 03:46:22 am »
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Quote from: JulioMadrid on August 28, 2011, 09:54:11 am
SPD
SPD
SPD
SPD
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Mostly that. I'd vote Die Linke or Green out of protest some times.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2011, 03:49:20 am »
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If I lived in Bavaria: CSU all the way. If I lived outside of Bavaria: CDU all the way, although a bit reluctant in recent years.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2011, 08:16:37 am »
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1949: FDP
1953: FDP
1957: CDU
1961: CDU
1965: CDU
1969: CDU
1972: CDU
1976: CDU
1980: CDU
1983: FDP
1987: FDP
1990: FDP
1994: FDP
1998: SPD
2002: SPD
2005: SPD
2009: FDP

Basically, FDP until they join a coalition with the SPD. Then CDU until the FDP rejoins them. I also like Schroeder's Third Way Policies, so I support him and his party until he is no longer leading them. I am a fan of Merkel's, though I would vote FDP in 2009 due to ideological reasons.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2011, 08:37:08 am »
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People with E -5.55 don't vote for unabashed neoliberals unless their head is screwed on wrong.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2011, 05:16:36 pm »
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Sure I've done this before, but I'll do it again from scratch without looking at previous results in order to compare (party list votes!).

1949: CDU
1953: CDU
1957: CDU
1961: CDU
1965: CDU
1969: SPD
1972: SPD
1976: CDU
1980: CDU (or more accurately: CSU)
1983: FDP (tactically)
1987: CDU
1990: CDU
1994: CDU
1998: SPD
2002: CDU (or more accurately: CSU)
2005: FDP
2009: CDU (and that is how I voted...even though I was going back and forth between CDU and FDP.....I'm glad I voted as I did.)
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 01:44:07 pm »
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Maybe You can think that I'm crazy, but now in Germany there is five (six if You split CDU and CSU) parties in Parliament and I like all of these. Is strange, but is true.

1949: FDP
1953: CDU/CSU
1957: CDU/CSU
1961: CDU/CSU
1965: SPD
1969: SPD
1972: SPD
1976: CDU/CSU
1980: CDU/CSU
1984: CDU/CSU
1987: Greens
1990: CDU/CSU
1994: Greens
1998: SPD
2002: SPD
2005: SPD
2009: The Left
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 03:14:23 pm »
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SPD right through until 2009, when I would've voted for Die Linke. I'd vote SPD in 2013.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2011, 04:09:33 am »
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1949: CDU
1953: CDU
1957: CDU
1961: CDU
1965: CDU
1969: SPD
1972: SPD
1976: SPD
1980: CDU
1983: CDU
1987: CDU
1990: CDU
1994: CDU
1998: SPD
2002: CDU
2005: CDU
2009: CDU
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 02:52:38 am »
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Quote from: Sibboleth on August 27, 2011, 06:17:24 pm
(also 1949 as the only FDP vote looks kind of... bad... because of the... sort of people... who... did that... in reality...)

Did those people vote FDP in the first election? I didn't know that, although I suppose it makes a certain degree of sense. Can you elaborate?
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 04:02:59 am »
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Quote from: Χahar on September 02, 2011, 02:52:38 am
Quote from: Sibboleth on August 27, 2011, 06:17:24 pm
(also 1949 as the only FDP vote looks kind of... bad... because of the... sort of people... who... did that... in reality...)

Did those people vote FDP in the first election? I didn't know that, although I suppose it makes a certain degree of sense. Can you elaborate?

The FDP was basically a party of ex-Nazis in the first years.
Nazis were found in every German party (except for the Commies perhaps) after WWII, but most of them went with the parties of the protestant bourgeoisie (besides the FDP, there were the Deutsche Partei / German Party or the Wirtschaftliche Aufbauvereinigung / Association for Economic Recovery and other smaller parties on the right).

The SPD was not the party of choice for most Nazis for obvious reasons, and one should not forget that the early CDU (i.e. until 1949/50) was strongly influenced by the Christian labour movement and some men from the Christian antifascist resistance. Hans Katzer, Jakob Kaiser, Karl Arnold, Johannes Albers deserve a mention. The first generation of Christian Democrats didn't want the Nazis in there party.

Of course, after 1949 Adenauer took over the party, basically destroyed the progressive potentials in it and transformed it in a broad center right anti-socialist coalition. Now the (career) Nazis joined the CDU in droves.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2011, 04:06:55 am »
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And to answer the question, straight SPD from 1918-1933 and since 1949.
Before 1918, depends on the constituency I lived in. Usually SPD, but sometimes a lesser evil in a constituency where the SPD had no shot.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 03:07:26 am »
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1949 > 1953: KPD
1957 > 1976: SPD
1980 > 1987: Greens
1990 > 2005: PDS
2009: Left
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 09:14:27 pm »
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It's worth noting that not voting SPD in 1949 means not voting for Kurt Schumacher. And he was pretty badass, you know?
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 11:25:34 pm »
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Actually, that's a fair point. Revise '49 to SPD.
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2011, 12:45:08 pm »
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SPD straight, perhaps some Die Linke thrown in occasionally.
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