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« on: November 11, 2011, 09:24:08 PM »
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The Phillies signed Jonathan Papelbon today for 4 years, $50 million with another $10 million vesting option. Are they insane? They gave up Madson at 4/44 for Papelbon at a higher price? The Madson deal would have been absurdly expensive, but this is ridiculous. Not only that, but Papelbon is an overrated, fastball-only, flyball pitcher coming into Citizens Bank Park. I feel bad for Phillies fans.

I also have a feeling they just screwed over the rest of the market with that deal.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 09:32:51 PM »
Also, new Miami Marlins unis:
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 09:45:12 PM »
Reportedly, Albert Pujols is meeting with the Miami Marlins.  It definitely would be different seeing Big Al in a different uniform.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 10:08:02 PM »
I'm still gonna say Florida Marlins.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 01:33:25 AM »
That kidnapped catcher for the Senators is free.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 01:38:09 AM »
Papelbon is an idiotic move...completely pointless. Especially considering the Madsen possibility. The Phillies are getting a little too Yankee-esque lately. Making huge deals for the sake of making huge deals.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 01:44:54 AM »
Yeah, it's been made clear that you don't have to spend $200 million to win it all.  You do have to spend $100, and spend it well, if you want be competitive consistently.  But the really big spenders lose in the playoffs just as much as the moderately big spenders.

Baseball needs some collusion.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 12:17:16 PM »
You have to remember that Madsons essentially been an 8th guy his whole career until this season  and before this season he was a terrible in the 9th. Sure Papp blew it last year but he's technically younger than Madson and has been closing longer. If you're gonna shell out the money get the more proven commodity.  Madsons wife does not like Philadelphia so I'm wondering if that eliminated the chance for a small discount as well.

The Phils are raking it in right now and packing the house. The nats and braves are younger and cheaper while the Phils core has become majorly expensive. While that doesn't justify the money for Papp it means that theyre obliged to be near 150-200 before they make critical moves.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 01:22:49 PM »
Remember when Back to the Future said Miami would be in the World Series in 2013 or something and it was funny because there was no Miami team?

Heh.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 02:41:13 PM »
Quote from: King on November 12, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
Remember when Back to the Future said Miami would be in the World Series in 2013 or something and it was funny because there was no Miami team?

Heh.

They're still in the National League, so they can't play the Cubs.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2011, 03:14:39 PM »
Quote from: dead0man on November 12, 2011, 01:33:25 AM
That kidnapped catcher for the Senators is free.

Wow! I thought I was the only one who preferred it that way....

Also:
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2011, 03:26:32 PM »

How about just calling them what they are - the understudies of the National League East?
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2011, 05:09:49 PM »
How much offense could the Phillies have bought for $50 million?
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 11:03:44 PM »
Quote from: We Remember - 70 years ago on November 12, 2011, 03:26:32 PM

How about just calling them what they are - the understudies of the National League East? the only team people care less about than the Washington Nationals.

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 02:19:04 AM »
Quote from: 20RP12 For Senate! on November 12, 2011, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: We Remember - 70 years ago on November 12, 2011, 03:26:32 PM

How about just calling them what they are - the understudies of the National League East? the only team people care less about than the Washington Nationals.

Fixed.

There's still the Oakland As...
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2011, 09:44:15 AM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 13, 2011, 02:19:04 AM
Quote from: 20RP12 For Senate! on November 12, 2011, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: We Remember - 70 years ago on November 12, 2011, 03:26:32 PM

How about just calling them what they are - the understudies of the National League East? the only team people care less about than the Washington Nationals.

Fixed.

There's still the Oakland As...

And the Pirates...
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2011, 04:02:32 PM »
Hellickson and Kimbrel are Rookies of the Year. Not surprising, but I was rooting for Trumbo. Sad

In other news, Dodgers resigned Kemp to a 8/160 deal, and Mike Matheny is the new Cardinals manager.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2011, 07:31:37 PM »
New CBA in place for next five years. Two wild cards will be added with a one-game play-in between the two in each league, maybe for 2012, maybe for 2013, we don't know yet. Astros officially in AL West in 2013.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2011, 04:17:18 PM »
All of those changes are terrible.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2011, 04:20:54 PM »

I'm going to withhold judgement until I see what kind of bracket we'll have with 5 playoff teams per league. I imagine one bye, but it remains to be seen how they draw it up.  For the most part, though, I agree with you.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2011, 05:24:18 PM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 17, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
New CBA in place for next five years. Two wild cards will be added with a one-game play-in between the two in each league, maybe for 2012, maybe for 2013, we don't know yet. Astros officially in AL West in 2013.

*Vomits*

Bud Selig is killing baseball!
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2011, 06:37:42 PM »
Quote from: We Remember - 70 years ago on November 18, 2011, 04:20:54 PM

I'm going to withhold judgement until I see what kind of bracket we'll have with 5 playoff teams per league. I imagine one bye, but it remains to be seen how they draw it up.  For the most part, though, I agree with you.

No, it'll be a one-game playoff between the wild cards, with the winner facing the one seed. No byes.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2011, 07:52:11 PM »
I don't like the playoff thing obviously nor the realignment, really, but what I'm more anxiously awaiting are the new restrictions in draft spending... supposedly some owners are PISSED
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2011, 09:38:13 PM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 18, 2011, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: We Remember - 70 years ago on November 18, 2011, 04:20:54 PM

I'm going to withhold judgement until I see what kind of bracket we'll have with 5 playoff teams per league. I imagine one bye, but it remains to be seen how they draw it up.  For the most part, though, I agree with you.

No, it'll be a one-game playoff between the wild cards, with the winner facing the one seed. No byes.

Ok, almost like the play-in games to the NCAA men's basketball tournament, only on a much smaller scale.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2011, 03:22:14 AM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 18, 2011, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: We Remember - 70 years ago on November 18, 2011, 04:20:54 PM

I'm going to withhold judgement until I see what kind of bracket we'll have with 5 playoff teams per league. I imagine one bye, but it remains to be seen how they draw it up.  For the most part, though, I agree with you.

No, it'll be a one-game playoff between the wild cards, with the winner facing the one seed. No byes.

After all, after a 162-game season, it completely makes sense to decide a team's fate based on one game.
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