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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2014, 03:25:07 pm »
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You don't think the same thing is going to happen every time a rich guy tries to get a link removed from every search engine in the world?

Why do you presume this is only available to rich people? The media reports suggest there are many applicants already. Surely they won't all result in their cases being highlighted - I'm presuming they'll get some safety in numbers.
I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
As for this case it's not a big deal. You more or less have to sue search engines for them to remove these information, and there they major difference between USA and most of the rest of the World in. Outside USA it's a major investment to sue someone, the compensation when you sue are smaller, so it's very rare to see a lawyer willing to sue against getting part of the compensation, so this is expensive for the plaintiff, so this are unlikely to be very expensive for Search Engines.

I didn't say anything about rich people, most middle class people could afford these lawsuit, but it would be a significant investment, which would ensure few people would care to push these cases.



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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2014, 04:02:49 am »
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You don't think the same thing is going to happen every time a rich guy tries to get a link removed from every search engine in the world?

Why do you presume this is only available to rich people? The media reports suggest there are many applicants already. Surely they won't all result in their cases being highlighted - I'm presuming they'll get some safety in numbers.
I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
As for this case it's not a big deal. You more or less have to sue search engines for them to remove these information, and there they major difference between USA and most of the rest of the World in. Outside USA it's a major investment to sue someone, the compensation when you sue are smaller, so it's very rare to see a lawyer willing to sue against getting part of the compensation, so this is expensive for the plaintiff, so this are unlikely to be very expensive for Search Engines.


The judicial mechanism will only need be pursued should Google et al turn reject the applicants at first instance - something they will have to consider, and be seen to consider, or presumably face judicial sanction themselves. Indeed what the appropriate judicial mechanism is, is yet to be clear, and may no doubt be quite different from country to country (European judicial systems being far from homogenous). To prejudge the efficacy and cost of these mechanisms before they're tested, or even appropriately defined, seems to me to be imprudent.

As to the cost of lawyering generally, the assertion that access to the legal system is self-evidently most cost effective in the US than in Europe is interesting. There isn't abundant data on the matter to which I'm aware, but World Bank stats  suggest that this isn't necessarily the case - placing the US somewhere in the middle compared to European countries.
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2014, 03:52:58 am »
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Today Google launches its webform through which people can submit their requests.

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In implementing this decision, we will assess each individual request and attempt to balance the privacy rights of the individual with the public’s right to know and distribute information. When evaluating your request, we will look at whether the results include outdated information about you, as well as whether there’s a public interest in the information—for example, information about financial scams, professional malpractice, criminal convictions, or public conduct of government officials.

Please note that this form is an initial effort. We look forward to working closely with data protection authorities and others over the coming months as we refine our approach.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2014, 07:53:36 am »
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Google started removing links today. It does not seem so difficult after all. Yahoo and Microsoft are working on a similar process, and cases similar to the one in Europe may soon be heard in Canada and Japan.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/google-starts-removing-search-results-under-europes-right-to-be-forgotten-1403774023
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2014, 10:31:14 am »
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Now they want to enforce this stupidity world wide
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Google’s French arm has been told it will have to pay a 1,000 euro fine every day should the parent company in America – Google Inc - fail to remove a defamatory article from its global network.
The order, by a court in Paris, is an enforcement of the controversial so-called ‘right to be forgotten’ ruling.
The case was brought against Google by Dan Shefet, a Danish lawyer employed in France, last August following a malicious campaign against his firm by various blogs and sites that was overseen by someone who couldn’t be traced.
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2014, 11:47:35 am »
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Now they want to enforce this stupidity world wide
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Google’s French arm has been told it will have to pay a 1,000 euro fine every day should the parent company in America – Google Inc - fail to remove a defamatory article from its global network.
The order, by a court in Paris, is an enforcement of the controversial so-called ‘right to be forgotten’ ruling.
The case was brought against Google by Dan Shefet, a Danish lawyer employed in France, last August following a malicious campaign against his firm by various blogs and sites that was overseen by someone who couldn’t be traced.

Wonderful news! I know the libertarian/right-wing types oppose privacy rights, but for the rest of us, this is a step in the right direction.
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2014, 12:07:15 pm »
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Now they want to enforce this stupidity world wide
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Google’s French arm has been told it will have to pay a 1,000 euro fine every day should the parent company in America – Google Inc - fail to remove a defamatory article from its global network.
The order, by a court in Paris, is an enforcement of the controversial so-called ‘right to be forgotten’ ruling.
The case was brought against Google by Dan Shefet, a Danish lawyer employed in France, last August following a malicious campaign against his firm by various blogs and sites that was overseen by someone who couldn’t be traced.

Wonderful news! I know the libertarian/right-wing types oppose privacy rights, but for the rest of us, this is a step in the right direction.
Good. I hope the Koch brothers get every anti-Koch/Citizens United ad stripped from Google as well. If public figures and businessmen have the right to silence criticism and competition on the internet, than let everybody have that right....
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2014, 12:14:18 pm »
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To Sanchez's weird strawman of a "point"; do European defamation laws have the public figure/private figure (/limited purpose public figure) distinction or is that a purely American thing?
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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2014, 12:41:16 am »
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Now they want to enforce this stupidity world wide
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Google’s French arm has been told it will have to pay a 1,000 euro fine every day should the parent company in America – Google Inc - fail to remove a defamatory article from its global network.
The order, by a court in Paris, is an enforcement of the controversial so-called ‘right to be forgotten’ ruling.
The case was brought against Google by Dan Shefet, a Danish lawyer employed in France, last August following a malicious campaign against his firm by various blogs and sites that was overseen by someone who couldn’t be traced.

Wonderful news! I know the libertarian/right-wing types oppose privacy rights, but for the rest of us, this is a step in the right direction.
Good. I hope the Koch brothers get every anti-Koch/Citizens United ad stripped from Google as well. If public figures and businessmen have the right to silence criticism and competition on the internet, than let everybody have that right....

     Hmm, there's an idea. We could foment a mass movement to get removed from Google. With any luck, Google will collapse having been reduced to irrelevance. Those in power will be forced to meet our demands, lest that we should shut down the other major search engines and force the internet to truly fall.
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