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« Reply #125 on: June 26, 2017, 05:04:38 pm »
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As Al Jazeera America tried asking Trump a Q tonight, he said, "you guys are out of business!" and moved on.



That's assuring.

Trump helping to destabilize the Middle East because he doesn't like the coverage he got from Al Jazeera seems par for the course.
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« Reply #126 on: June 29, 2017, 08:01:31 am »
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Deposed bin Nayef confined to his palace.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/world/middleeast/deposed-saudi-prince-mohammed-bin-nayef.html
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« Reply #127 on: July 03, 2017, 11:27:33 pm »
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The Saudi monarchy has obviously never been democratic, but these look like the latest moves in a slow-motion coup by Salman's branch of the family.
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« Reply #128 on: July 05, 2017, 03:27:55 am »
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The Saudi monarchy has obviously never been democratic, but these look like the latest moves in a slow-motion coup by Salman's branch of the family.

He's obviously consolidating power, and this is obviously related to the Qatar thing, too.
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« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2017, 08:00:04 am »

Abdul-Rahman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud bites the dust.
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« Reply #130 on: July 20, 2017, 11:06:54 am »
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"A Saudi prince has been arrested after a video emerged online purporting to show him abusing someone and pointing a rifle at another."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/saudi-prince-arrested-videos-purported-abuse-threat-gun-alcohol-sharia-law/
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« Reply #131 on: July 30, 2017, 06:10:54 pm »
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-haj-idUSKBN1AF0L3

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DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called what he said was Qatar's demand for an internationalization of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday, but Qatar said it never made such a call.

"Qatar's demands to internationalize the holy sites is aggressive and a declaration of war against the kingdom," Adel al-Jubeir was quoted saying on Al Arabiya's website.

"We reserve the right to respond to anyone who is working on the internationalization of the holy sites," he said.

Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani said no official from his country had made such a call.

"We are tired of responding to false information and stories invented from nothing," Sheikh Mohammed told Al Jazeera TV.

Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?
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« Reply #132 on: July 30, 2017, 08:31:34 pm »
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called what he said was Qatar's demand for an internationalization of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday, but Qatar said it never made such a call.

"Qatar's demands to internationalize the holy sites is aggressive and a declaration of war against the kingdom," Adel al-Jubeir was quoted saying on Al Arabiya's website.

"We reserve the right to respond to anyone who is working on the internationalization of the holy sites," he said.

Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani said no official from his country had made such a call.

"We are tired of responding to false information and stories invented from nothing," Sheikh Mohammed told Al Jazeera TV.

Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?
It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.
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« Reply #133 on: July 30, 2017, 11:01:12 pm »
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called what he said was Qatar's demand for an internationalization of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday, but Qatar said it never made such a call.

"Qatar's demands to internationalize the holy sites is aggressive and a declaration of war against the kingdom," Adel al-Jubeir was quoted saying on Al Arabiya's website.

"We reserve the right to respond to anyone who is working on the internationalization of the holy sites," he said.

Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani said no official from his country had made such a call.

"We are tired of responding to false information and stories invented from nothing," Sheikh Mohammed told Al Jazeera TV.

Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?
It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.

Picking new fights to distract from the fights they're losing is not a good strategy. Starting a war with Qatar would be like Hitler invading Spain after failing to take Moscow.
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« Reply #134 on: July 31, 2017, 07:59:33 am »
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called what he said was Qatar's demand for an internationalization of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday, but Qatar said it never made such a call.

"Qatar's demands to internationalize the holy sites is aggressive and a declaration of war against the kingdom," Adel al-Jubeir was quoted saying on Al Arabiya's website.

"We reserve the right to respond to anyone who is working on the internationalization of the holy sites," he said.

Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani said no official from his country had made such a call.

"We are tired of responding to false information and stories invented from nothing," Sheikh Mohammed told Al Jazeera TV.

Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?
It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.

Picking new fights to distract from the fights they're losing is not a good strategy. Starting a war with Qatar would be like Hitler invading Spain after failing to take Moscow.

The Saudis will just annex Qatar if they go down that road, it would be easy for them to do it. The Saudis now think that they should have control over the entire area. The Omanis don't really care but everyone else is in bed with the Saudis because of the fear of Iran and more riyals coming their way for "projects, development", etc.
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« Reply #135 on: July 31, 2017, 09:08:19 pm »
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The Saudis will just annex Qatar if they go down that road, it would be easy for them to do it. The Saudis now think that they should have control over the entire area. The Omanis don't really care but everyone else is in bed with the Saudis because of the fear of Iran and more riyals coming their way for "projects, development", etc.
Don't be ridiculous.  If the Saudis go down that path, they won't annex, they'll install their own puppet Al-Thani.  With hundreds if not thousands of Al-Thanis and no requirement for primogeniture, they should be able to find at least one puppet willing to have the Saudi hand up their backside.
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« Reply #136 on: August 08, 2017, 05:01:32 pm »
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called what he said was Qatar's demand for an internationalization of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday, but Qatar said it never made such a call.

"Qatar's demands to internationalize the holy sites is aggressive and a declaration of war against the kingdom," Adel al-Jubeir was quoted saying on Al Arabiya's website.

"We reserve the right to respond to anyone who is working on the internationalization of the holy sites," he said.

Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani said no official from his country had made such a call.

"We are tired of responding to false information and stories invented from nothing," Sheikh Mohammed told Al Jazeera TV.

Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?
It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.

Picking new fights to distract from the fights they're losing is not a good strategy. Starting a war with Qatar would be like Hitler invading Spain after failing to take Moscow.

Where have I heard that one before?
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« Reply #137 on: August 20, 2017, 06:56:20 pm »
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/saudi-carrier-qatar-approved-hajj-flights-49322865

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Saudi Arabia said Sunday its aircraft have not been given permission to land in Doha to pick up Qatari pilgrims for the annual hajj after the king authorized flights to transport people to Mecca.

Saudi Arabia reopened its border with Qatar last week to allow Qataris to attend the hajj amid a monthslong rift between the neighboring countries. King Salman also authorized Saudi planes to transport pilgrims at his expense. Already, more than 100 Qataris have crossed into Saudi Arabia since the border was opened.

But Saleh al-Jasser, the general manger of Saudi Arabian Airlines, was quoted by Saudi state TV as saying Qatari authorities have not authorized the kingdom's aircraft to land in the capital, despite a request submitted several days ago to transport Qatari pilgrims from Hamad International Airport in Doha.

Qatar's foreign minister said his country welcomed the decision to facilitate the hajj for Qataris, however the moves do not appear to have been coordinated with Qatar's government.

In early June, Saudi Arabia sealed Qatar's only land border. The kingdom, along with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt also cut all diplomatic and transport links with Qatar, including barring direct flights between the countries. They also blocked Qatari flights from using their airspace.

The Qatar-based Al Jazeera reported that the small Gulf country filed a complaint to the International Civil Aviation Organization against attempts to "terrorize" travelers flying on Qatari Airways.

The complaint pointed to a report by the Saudi-owned Al Arabiya news channel that shows a simulation of a fighter jet forcing a Qatar Airways flight to land if it enters the quartet's airspace. The video says that these countries have the right to use force if necessary, and shows a bomb striking an unmarked aircraft.


So now who's the "villain"?
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« Reply #138 on: August 20, 2017, 07:02:12 pm »
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Still Saudi Arabia ^
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