Scott Walker recall goes live

[I Can't Get That Sound You Make, Out Of My Head]

I suspect the margin will end up rather similar to 2010. I think the state is pretty evenly divided on Walker's actions but there's a portion of the population out there (5-10%) that opposes recalls out of principle and that'll carry the day for Walker.

Yeah this.

Will have a very high turnout. Democrats hate Walker whereas Republicans love him.

[They Played The Wardrum Out Of Time]

Walker has some very devoted support

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/wife-drives-into-chippewa-falls-man-after-vote-argument-ke5bdap-150697635.html

A Chippewa Falls man who repeatedly tried to block his estranged wife from driving to the polls Tuesday was hospitalized with head, neck and back injuries when she struck him with her sport utility vehicle.

Jeffery Radle, a Gov. Scott Walker supporter, was on foot.

Amanda Radle, a recall proponent, was in a Dodge Durango.

The pair had been arguing early Tuesday afternoon over who she was going to vote for in the gubernatorial recall election primary, said Chippewa Falls Police Chief Wendy L. Stelter.

lol

[AmericanNation]

I suspect the margin will end up rather similar to 2010. I think the state is pretty evenly divided on Walker's actions but there's a portion of the population out there (5-10%) that opposes recalls out of principle and that'll carry the day for Walker.

That's possible.  It's too bad that Wisconsin doesn't let voters recall legislation instead of politicians like Ohio does, because then the Democrats would have better chances of getting what they want.

Maybe, but that wouldn't make sense considering democrats have basically abandoned the anti act 10 message because they lose on it.  Barrett didn't even mention it last night.  They want to run on jobs or women apparently...  this recall is so stupid.     

[Governor Scott]

I suspect the margin will end up rather similar to 2010. I think the state is pretty evenly divided on Walker's actions but there's a portion of the population out there (5-10%) that opposes recalls out of principle and that'll carry the day for Walker.

That's possible.  It's too bad that Wisconsin doesn't let voters recall legislation instead of politicians like Ohio does, because then the Democrats would have better chances of getting what they want.

Maybe, but that wouldn't make sense considering democrats have basically abandoned the anti act 10 message because they lose on it.  Barrett didn't even mention it last night.  They want to run on jobs or women apparently...  this recall is so stupid.     

The Democrats do seem to be making the same mistake they did with the recalls by not making unions the central issue in spite of the fact that most Wisconsin voters support collective bargaining rights.  It all depends on how they go about the issue from now until the election.

[AmericanNation]

I suspect the margin will end up rather similar to 2010. I think the state is pretty evenly divided on Walker's actions but there's a portion of the population out there (5-10%) that opposes recalls out of principle and that'll carry the day for Walker.

That's possible.  It's too bad that Wisconsin doesn't let voters recall legislation instead of politicians like Ohio does, because then the Democrats would have better chances of getting what they want.

Maybe, but that wouldn't make sense considering democrats have basically abandoned the anti act 10 message because they lose on it.  Barrett didn't even mention it last night.  They want to run on jobs or women apparently...  this recall is so stupid.    

The Democrats do seem to be making the same mistake they did with the recalls by not making unions the central issue in spite of the fact that most Wisconsin voters support collective bargaining rights.  It all depends on how they go about the issue from now until the election.

If you include the word "rights" in anything it is generally supported.  Collective Bargaining is not a right by definition.  Most Wisconsin voters support the act 10 reforms because they stopped some abused and destructive privileges that never should have been granted.  

Last night, Barrett said the recall was about jobs...  hard to make up a more absurd lie.  

Fun Stuff
Approximately 735,798 Republicans turned out to vote while only 541,018 Democrats turned out to vote.  Many republicans voted for the weaker democrat union endorsed Falk instead of Walker. 

 http://www.wigderson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Recall-Primary-2012.jpg
  

  

[krazen1211]

I suspect the margin will end up rather similar to 2010. I think the state is pretty evenly divided on Walker's actions but there's a portion of the population out there (5-10%) that opposes recalls out of principle and that'll carry the day for Walker.

Yeah this.

Will have a very high turnout. Democrats hate Walker whereas Republicans love him.

http://m.jsonline.com/blogs/news/150760775.html


Milwaukee Mayor Barrett enjoyed his biggest countywide margins in Milwaukee County Tuesday. But the county’s turnout rate was much lower than Dane’s: 17% of voting-age adults, or 123,638 people, voted in the Democratic primary

[Torie]

I join Krazen in really, really wanting to win this one. Things look pretty good at the moment, but things can go wrong in a hurry, with all of the plate tectonic shifts moving around all over the place, as the voters try to sort through a host of unpleasant stuff. It's cold shower time, and only kooks like cold showers.

That is why I am so amused by all the youngs  forecasting how various states will go this November and by what margin, and then even by county in one thread. Oh dear! They will learn in time.

[ModerateCoward]

This election is a lot more interesting than Presidential one, and it there are actual different ideologies presented here. Hopefully the good guys win although it's not looking very good.

[AmericanNation]

Wisconsin Recall Election: Walker 50%, Barrett 45%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_governor_elections/wisconsin/wisconsin_recall_election_walker_50_barrett_45

Given how badly dems were crushed in turnout Tuesday, I actually think that indicates what will happen June 5th.  Incomprehensible to political junkies, but most democrats do NOT know (anymore) why Walker is being recalled.  The reforms work!  Let this be a lesson that this is what happens when you let ONE special interest group (non police/fire government employees) control your party.  Most Wisdems did not want this, but they were powerless to stop it and will suffer by association. 

That large number of people that correctly understand that this is an abuse of the recall process goes a long way toward Walker winning the few remaining undecideds and suppresses dem turnout.  Walker will probably win every region of the state except the Dane county region(south-central), The La Crosse region will be close.  Walker will win South-East Wisconsin(were the population is), but an interesting question is: will Walker get over 40% in Milwaukee county?  if he does it is almost impossible for a democrat to win a statewide election.           

When was the last time a (mid-sized)state budget became a national issue?     

[MilesC56]

Wisconsin Recall Election: Walker 50%, Barrett 45%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_governor_elections/wisconsin/wisconsin_recall_election_walker_50_barrett_45
  

Good, its a pure tossup then.

[Governor Scott]

It's Rasmussen.  Knock off a few R points and yeah, toss-up.

[Ike56]

It's Rasmussen.  Knock off a few R points and yeah, toss-up.

A fair point, indeed.  PPP had it at +1 for Walker with LVs, so I shall deduct a couple of points from Barrett to compensate for their supposed (actually, openly admitted per Tommy Jensen) partisan leanings.  Walker will thus win narrowly.

Now, can we please stop awarding phantom votes to one candidate or another based on whether we like the alleged affiliations of certain pollsters?

[ModerateCoward]

Democrats should have just played as dirty as the Republicans did, and unloaded the entire kitchen sink on Walker. Throw everything together(race-baiting, attack on women, unions, jobs record, call him a fascist a few times) and they would come out ahead by a point or two.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Thank God for the Democrats that this guy just can't keep his mouth when he talks to his sugar daddies (and mommies).

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/11/walker_talked_of_divide_and_conquer_strategy.html#047869a

A video taken in early 2011 shows Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) saying he would use "divide and conquer" as a strategy against unions, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports.

"Walker made the comments to billionaire Diane Hendricks, who has since given $510,000 to the governor's campaign -- making her Walker's single-largest donor and the largest known donor to a candidate in state history."

"In the video, Hendricks asked the governor whether he could make Wisconsin a 'completely red state, and work on these unions, and become a right-to-work' state... Walker replied that his 'first step' would be 'to divide and conquer' through his budget-adjustment bill, which curtailed most collective bargaining for most public employee unions."

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K1S_Pxw2n-U

[Pacific Councillor LiberalJunkie]

Lol busted

[AmericanNation]

Translation:
"I prefer a mild - practical approach that I know will work in solving the state's problems."

1) The democrats and the Unions are divided, so apparently Walker is a genius.
 
2) Boy does Diane Hendricks look different than I thought she did. 

[Landslide Lyndon]

Translation:
"I prefer a mild - practical approach that I know will work in solving the state's problems."

1) The democrats and the Unions are divided, so apparently Walker is a genius.
 
2) Boy does Diane Hendricks look different than I thought she did. 

Apparently your translator was made in India.

[Vosem]

Meh. The sort of people who were going to vote against Walker anyway are excited about this. The rest of us will get on with our lives. Walker will probably still be re-elected.

[krazen1211]

We can cherry-pick dropped balls all we like but the fact remains that PPP's methodology and business ethics as a polling firm, taken as a whole, beat Rasmussen's by a country mile.

Based on PPP, the far superior pollster (according to another liberal in this thread), Ras and PPP are showing the exact same results now. And for that matter the same more or less as this Marquette Poll.

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/

The poll finds Walker ahead of Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett by a 50 percent to 44 percent margin.

Shrug.


But let's knock a few points off because someone might like the result better.

It's Rasmussen.  Knock off a few R points and yeah, toss-up.

[Vosem]

Meh. The sort of people who were going to vote against Walker anyway are excited about this. The rest of us will get on with our lives. Walker will probably still be re-elected.

I feel kind of narcissistic quoting myself, but I was right -- both PPP and Ras have shown Walker remains in the lead, with the video not having really affected much of anything.

[krazen1211]

Meh. The sort of people who were going to vote against Walker anyway are excited about this. The rest of us will get on with our lives. Walker will probably still be re-elected.

I feel kind of narcissistic quoting myself, but I was right -- both PPP and Ras have shown Walker remains in the lead, with the video not having really affected much of anything.

Yep, and Marquette too.

[Nym90]

Thank God for the Democrats that this guy just can't keep his mouth when he talks to his sugar daddies (and mommies).

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/11/walker_talked_of_divide_and_conquer_strategy.html#047869a

A video taken in early 2011 shows Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) saying he would use "divide and conquer" as a strategy against unions, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports.

"Walker made the comments to billionaire Diane Hendricks, who has since given $510,000 to the governor's campaign -- making her Walker's single-largest donor and the largest known donor to a candidate in state history."

"In the video, Hendricks asked the governor whether he could make Wisconsin a 'completely red state, and work on these unions, and become a right-to-work' state... Walker replied that his 'first step' would be 'to divide and conquer' through his budget-adjustment bill, which curtailed most collective bargaining for most public employee unions."

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K1S_Pxw2n-U

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that this is the eventual goal of Walker and his ilk, of course.

If he wins, it will certainly be a major victory for those who wish to return to the good old days of the 1800's.

[AmericanNation]

If he wins, it will certainly be a major victory for those who wish to return to the good old days of the 1800's.

GDP growth above 2.5% ? ?  unemployment under 8% ? ?

[hawkeye59]

If he wins, it will certainly be a major victory for those who wish to return to the good old days of the 1800's.

GDP growth above 2.5% ? ?  unemployment under 8% ? ?

Slavery ? ? Imperialism ? ?

[Jbrase]

If he wins, it will certainly be a major victory for those who wish to return to the good old days of the 1800's.

GDP growth above 2.5% ? ?  unemployment under 8% ? ?

Slavery ? ? Imperialism ? ?

When did the Imperialism end?