Would you favor replacing the death penalty with hard labor?
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Question: Replace the death penalty with hard labor?
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Yes, in all situations
 
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Yes, in some situations
 
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No, just keep the death penalty
 
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No, abolish the death penalty in favor of life in prison
 
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« on: December 24, 2004, 08:36:21 PM »

Yes, in all situations. It'd be more of a deterrent, more cost-effective, and honestly, it's a better punishment for mass murderers and the like.
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2004, 08:40:33 PM »

Yes, in all situations.  I think it would be an excellent alternative for two reasons:

1. The guilty would have to give back to the community from which they stole something.
2. The innocent could be released and compensated for their troubles when found to be so.
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2004, 08:46:26 PM »

In some situations.  The victim, or family of the victim, should be given the choice.  Then, the criminal should be given a choice too.  Finally, the jury should have the last say.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2004, 09:42:43 PM »

In most cases. I still would like the death penalty reserved for the most vile of villains.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2004, 10:41:37 PM »
« Edited: December 24, 2004, 10:43:34 PM by nclib »

Option 4.

However, I would still support hard labor over the death penalty.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2004, 10:48:28 PM »


Your heartless apathy for justice is truly sick.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2004, 11:44:05 PM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2004, 12:06:49 AM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.

Punishment is the best kind of prevention.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2004, 10:23:43 AM »

Sounds good.  We really need our roads and highways improved here, so having prisoners do it would move things along a lot.  They could also build parks and stuff and clean up litter (they do that some here, but not a lot).
Let 'em get a chance to do something right for once.
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2004, 10:29:40 AM »

Finally, the jury should have the last say.

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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2004, 10:32:21 AM »

Sounds good.  We really need our roads and highways improved here, so having prisoners do it would move things along a lot.  They could also build parks and stuff and clean up litter (they do that some here, but not a lot).
Let 'em get a chance to do something right for once.

I demand that they break up big rocks into little rocks, paste the little rocks back into big rocks, and then break up the big rocks into little ones again!
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2004, 12:24:12 PM »

In all situations. The death penalty is the most sickening of all postitions held by the American right. In doing work these notorious villains will help society and learn more than they would have by just being killed. In fact if Bin Laden were ever captured I'd rather have him do labor than be put to death.

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2004, 01:49:40 PM »

Option number four.  Labour would be pointless - if they were doing someone economically useful, they would be taking jobs away from well-paid union workers (hah, if there still were such people!).  As for doing senseless work, like digging and filling holes or other Sisyphus-like punishment, I don't see how anything is gained by that.

I'd say the best thing would just be to drug them up like mental patients.
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2004, 02:22:23 PM »

Option number four.  Labour would be pointless - if they were doing someone economically useful, they would be taking jobs away from well-paid union workers (hah, if there still were such people!).  As for doing senseless work, like digging and filling holes or other Sisyphus-like punishment, I don't see how anything is gained by that.

I'd say the best thing would just be to drug them up like mental patients.

Well, one thing they could do is grow their own food, like they used to in the past. That wouldn't cost too many jobs. Back in the day prisons used to actually make a profit.

Also, it must be considered that we'll save on prison costs that way, so there will be less taxes, so it will be easier to regenerate whatever jobs are lost.
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2004, 02:25:53 PM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.

Punishment is the best kind of prevention.

So I take it you support strict gun control measures? Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2004, 04:45:31 PM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.

Punishment is the best kind of prevention.

So I take it you support strict gun control measures? Smiley

Gun control measures = being able to hit my target. Being able to hit my target prevents criminals from harming me. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2004, 07:04:44 PM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.

Punishment is the best kind of prevention.

So I take it you support strict gun control measures? Smiley

Gun control measures = being able to hit my target. Being able to hit my target prevents criminals from harming me. Smiley

Unless, of course, they have a larger gun.

I am for this in all cases.  Let them improve the society they attempted to destroy.
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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2004, 09:04:19 PM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.

Punishment is the best kind of prevention.

So I take it you support strict gun control measures? Smiley

Gun control measures = being able to hit my target. Being able to hit my target prevents criminals from harming me. Smiley

Unless, of course, they have a larger gun.

Doesn't matter how big their gun is if they have a bullet in their brain.
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2004, 09:06:04 PM »


I would put more effort into prevention than punishment.

Punishment is the best kind of prevention.

So I take it you support strict gun control measures? Smiley

Gun control measures = being able to hit my target. Being able to hit my target prevents criminals from harming me. Smiley

Unless, of course, they have a larger gun.

Doesn't matter how big their gun is if they have a bullet in their brain.

Of course, it does matter if they are a faster shot than you.

And, if they are, you are dead.

Otherwise they probably will just steal your money. Personally, I would rather lose a wallet than have a 5% chance of losing my life  and a 90% chance of keeping my money.
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2004, 12:16:03 AM »

no, because it would just steal jobs. I voted option 4, just lock them up.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2004, 09:24:19 AM »

In most situations.
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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2004, 02:03:12 AM »

no, because it would just steal jobs. I voted option 4, just lock them up.

I'd pick random public works projects that would not have been done otherwise (fountains, parks, ditches, etc). 

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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2004, 03:32:33 AM »

I support hard labor, especially for repeat offenders.  I'm in favor, wholeheartedly, of rehabilitation, but it doesn't help with repeat offenders.

Make prison so terrible that criminals will be too afraid to go back.
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2004, 09:20:56 AM »

Yes, in all situations. I think it would be an excellent alternative for two reasons:

1. The guilty would have to give back to the community from which they stole something.
2. The innocent could be released and compensated for their troubles when found to be so.

I agree completely.

I had never thought of your 2nd point, that's a good one, too. If evidence later turns up showing that you were innocent of your crime, and you are released from prison, the government pays you for your labor through the years, at whatever the current going rate is for that work. Makes sense to me.

And I definitely agree that those who are found guilty should be required to work.
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