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« Reply #1450 on: June 07, 2012, 11:31:42 pm »
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Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!
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« Reply #1451 on: June 07, 2012, 11:59:24 pm »
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Do you still have the mustache?
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« Reply #1452 on: June 08, 2012, 12:14:46 am »
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Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?

Yes, Sioux County, ND. But I don't have any experience with their medical care because my parents would commute 80 miles to Bismarck whenever me or any of my brothers had to go to the doctor, and also when all three of us were born. Which probably speaks to the quality of it. Please note this even applied when I fell into a window well at age 4 and knocked out some teeth and was bleeding from the mouth. They still took me on the 80 mile drive instead of seeking medical attention on the Reservation.

But as poor as many of the individuals on those Reservations are (Sioux has the 8th lowest median income in the US), I think it's a mistake to consider the tribes themselves poor, anyone who's visited a tribal casino can tell you they certainly aren't barely scraping by (and consider all those profits are tax-free...)
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« Reply #1453 on: June 08, 2012, 08:17:38 am »
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Where does the money for the tribal medical care come from?
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« Reply #1454 on: June 08, 2012, 08:27:44 am »
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Where does the money for the tribal medical care come from?

Your pocket.....now get back to work and fund it Tongue
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« Reply #1455 on: June 08, 2012, 12:14:56 pm »
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Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.
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« Reply #1456 on: June 08, 2012, 04:42:02 pm »
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Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

why not?  just curious....
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« Reply #1457 on: June 08, 2012, 05:26:23 pm »
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Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

why not?  just curious....

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #1458 on: June 08, 2012, 05:32:55 pm »
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Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

Bushie, is Ron Sparks your relative?

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« Reply #1459 on: June 08, 2012, 05:37:21 pm »
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Do you still have the mustache?

Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

why not?  just curious....

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

I think I am beginning to see a method to your madness. Smiley
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« Reply #1460 on: June 08, 2012, 05:38:58 pm »
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Do you still have the mustache?

Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

why not?  just curious....

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

what does this have to do with keeping a moustache?
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« Reply #1461 on: June 08, 2012, 08:17:51 pm »
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Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

why not?  just curious....

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

what does this have to do with keeping a moustache?

The whole reason I would have gotten rid of it was to try to look more attractive to the ladies.  Since that is not a major concern of mine at this point, I see no reason to shave it off entirely.  I will keep it trimmed and well groomed with the job, but I'm not going to shave it off completely.
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« Reply #1462 on: June 08, 2012, 08:18:18 pm »
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Do you still have the mustache?

Yes, and I'm not getting rid of it.

why not?  just curious....

I don't feel the need to be quite honest.  I'm not really on the prowl for a lady right now, as I'm focused on moving to Kenya in 32 1/2 months and I don't want to be slowed down or stopped by a relationship.  I would rather find a Kenyan girl to make it easier to adopt the children.  It's impossible on my own, but I think it would be easier with a Kenyan girl than with an American girl, if you know what I mean.

I think I am beginning to see a method to your madness. Smiley

See, I'm not completely loopy. Smiley
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« Reply #1463 on: June 08, 2012, 08:18:49 pm »
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Bushie, is Ron Sparks your relative?



Nope
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« Reply #1464 on: June 08, 2012, 08:21:15 pm »
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I went to the Indian Clinic today and fill out the application.  It was VERY simple.  All I had to do was fill out a small slip of paper with 7 lines on it asking for Name, SSN, DOB, Address, and Tribe Affiliation.  They will give me a call on Monday to set up an appointment to come in and see the doctor.  The entire process took about 10 minutes.  I assume I will fill out the major paperwork at the first visit.
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« Reply #1465 on: June 09, 2012, 01:39:00 am »
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Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.

1/32nd is enough to get you free stuff?  That seems a bit odd.
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« Reply #1466 on: June 09, 2012, 03:35:00 am »
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Tomorrow morning, I am beginning the process of applying for free medical care.  I've mentioned this once, but I am 1/32nd Potawatomi Indian, only 5 generations removed from full blood.  I am Citizen Potawatomi Indian Card Carrier, which entitles me to free prescriptions, free medical care, free dental care, free major dental care, even free hospital visits, and heavily discounted vision care.  I was just enlightened to this eligibility yesterday from my Grandfather's cousin, who is, of course, 1/8 indian.  My mother, who is 1/16, is going with me to Shawnee tomorrow to fill out the application.  This cousin said they cannot deny us because we are a card carrying member of the Tribe, and have never turned anybody down who was a card carrying member.

That will save me a lot of money as I am without insurance until October 1 and without insurance my two major medications run me $3,000 a year.  Imagine, I will be able to save $3,000 a year on medication, plus free doctor visits and free dental care.  I just have to change doctors to the tribal doctors.  That's fine with me.

1/32nd is enough to get you free stuff?  That seems a bit odd.
Should be 0/32 to get the "free" stuff Wink
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« Reply #1467 on: June 10, 2012, 10:55:22 am »
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am i the only one who thinks that bushie isnt an indian?
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« Reply #1468 on: June 11, 2012, 07:55:53 am »
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Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity. 

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!

Your monthly savings is more than I spend per year on healthcare. Shocked
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« Reply #1469 on: June 11, 2012, 08:00:45 am »
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At 1/32nd.....it's not a strecth to say he's not.

Let's see, with European ancenstry I'm probably 1/32nd of every damn country there Smiley
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« Reply #1470 on: June 11, 2012, 08:07:30 am »
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At 1/32nd.....it's not a strecth to say he's not.

Let's see, with European ancenstry I'm probably 1/32nd of every damn country there Smiley

By myself, I'm not indian, but it's because of my ancestors, not that many generations removed from me, that I can claim the Potawatomi as my heritage and am eligible for a card which entitles me to free tribal health care.

But, yeah, if you look at me and had no knowledge of my family history, I'm just a fat American.
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« Reply #1471 on: June 11, 2012, 09:19:39 am »
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Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?
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« Reply #1472 on: June 11, 2012, 11:33:06 am »
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Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?

No plans on that at this time.
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« Reply #1473 on: June 11, 2012, 12:26:07 pm »
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Let me see if I have this correct:

So you did not want to claim unemployment, something you actually paid into, because that would be mooching, but you show up for a few hours to a pow wow and you are entitled to free health care in perpetuity.  

I can't speak from direct experience but I know most of these tribes and those on reservations are pretty desperately poor and have a dearth of resources.  Some white guy with 3% and very distant ancestry  taking up resources doesn't seem right to me.

I'd be interested in BRTD take on this- didnt he live on a reservation as a youth?
Get off your high horse. He's a poor in need of medical attention. It's a national disgrace that he's not entitled to care as an American citizen, but that's just the way it is. I would absolutely go for the free medical care in his position. I'd be interested to know if mental health care is covered also. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I suspect that's something he could use as well.

Thanks, Memphis.  I don't see anything wrong with it and I definitely don't feel bad about it.  This is not mooching, it is using what I'm entitled to and something I desperately need.  If this is going to save me a hypothetical, but not unrealistic, $4,000 a year, that is $333.33 a month saved.  That will make my pay cut not seem so bad.  A side note, this even covers my OTC allergy medicine (Zyrtec, Claritin).  When I get my insurance in October, I will have to tell them I have insurance and they have to file with the insurance, but the tribe will pick up my portion of the cost, so I still don't have to pay anything.

From what I've heard this even works if, heaven forbid, I'm hurt on the job and have to go to the Emergency Room and end up hospitalized for a few days, I can get my entire bill paid for or at least heavily discounted.

Again, I'm going tomorrow morning to Shawnee to fill out the application along with my mother.

The only downside is my doctor would be 45 miles from my work, but if I get free service, I'll go!

Your monthly savings is more than I spend per year on healthcare. Shocked
It's news to you that healthcare is insanely overpriced here in the US? You should know that it's also a common experience to have to wait weeks for an appointment, then wait hours after your appointment time to be seen, be seen for just a minute or two, and then receive a bill for a few hundred dollars. And usually that's just to receive a permission slip to buy a drug that is also outrageously priced. A short hospital stay can easily cost a man a year's salary. And while fixing it all wouldn't be simple, it's not difficult to figure out that there are far too many hands in the cookie jar. Insurance companies, people whose job is to take pills from big bottles and put them in small bottles, and at every step of the way, an enormous army of very well paid advertisers and salesmen. And millions of Americans go bankrupt trying to manage the system. And plenty of them even have insurance. And now that even the government is going bankrupt just trying to pay for basic care for the elderly and destitute, it looks like this burden will soon be pushed even further onto those least able to afford it. All that said, I find it very difficult to cast judgement on Bushie for finding a way to circumvent this train wreck. Any sane person in his position would do the same.
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« Reply #1474 on: June 11, 2012, 02:16:21 pm »
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Every time I think this saga is dying down a bit, a new and exciting turn comes along!

How long until BushOK...er...Chief Windswayer makes a pilgrimage to a reservation?

No plans on that at this time.
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