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« Reply #225 on: November 22, 2011, 09:17:05 PM »
Romney has had too big confrontations, first with Huntsman and then with Paul. He lost both handily and came off looking angry, flustered and arrogant.
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« Reply #226 on: November 22, 2011, 09:18:08 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on November 22, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

My perception: Cain is looking irrelevant and silly, and probably helping his gradual Perry-style bleeding.  Romney is making a mistake by poking at Huntsman especially, but in general keeps starting fights where he ends up looking weak.  The people he's fighting for are demonstrating his appeals (moderation, calmness, certainty, cogency) better than he is.

That said, Perry's strong performance tonight makes for a pretty weird dynamic, and might be the best thing Romney has going tonight, in terms of polling repercussions.

Perry should get a polling boost after tonight, with Gingrich possibly stagnating.
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« Reply #227 on: November 22, 2011, 09:19:46 PM »
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Alcon on November 22, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

My perception: Cain is looking irrelevant and silly, and probably helping his gradual Perry-style bleeding.  Romney is making a mistake by poking at Huntsman especially, but in general keeps starting fights where he ends up looking weak.  The people he's fighting for are demonstrating his appeals (moderation, calmness, certainty, cogency) better than he is.

That said, Perry's strong performance tonight makes for a pretty weird dynamic, and might be the best thing Romney has going tonight, in terms of polling repercussions.

Perry should get a polling boost after tonight, with Gingrich possibly stagnating.

Why would Gingrich stagnate? He's had a pretty strong debate.
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« Reply #228 on: November 22, 2011, 09:21:08 PM »
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on November 22, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Alcon on November 22, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

My perception: Cain is looking irrelevant and silly, and probably helping his gradual Perry-style bleeding.  Romney is making a mistake by poking at Huntsman especially, but in general keeps starting fights where he ends up looking weak.  The people he's fighting for are demonstrating his appeals (moderation, calmness, certainty, cogency) better than he is.

That said, Perry's strong performance tonight makes for a pretty weird dynamic, and might be the best thing Romney has going tonight, in terms of polling repercussions.

Perry should get a polling boost after tonight, with Gingrich possibly stagnating.

Why would Gingrich stagnate? He's had a pretty strong debate.

Because he comes off looking like Pillsbury Doughboy's evil twin, and has been an arrogant ass the entire debate.
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« Reply #229 on: November 22, 2011, 09:21:27 PM »
Huntsman and Paul biggest winners imo.
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« Reply #230 on: November 22, 2011, 09:23:09 PM »
Quote from: seatown on November 22, 2011, 09:21:27 PM
Huntsman and Paul biggest winners imo.

Nah, not Paul. Too many silent moments, too many pregnant pauses.
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« Reply #231 on: November 22, 2011, 09:23:40 PM »
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on November 22, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Alcon on November 22, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

My perception: Cain is looking irrelevant and silly, and probably helping his gradual Perry-style bleeding.  Romney is making a mistake by poking at Huntsman especially, but in general keeps starting fights where he ends up looking weak.  The people he's fighting for are demonstrating his appeals (moderation, calmness, certainty, cogency) better than he is.

That said, Perry's strong performance tonight makes for a pretty weird dynamic, and might be the best thing Romney has going tonight, in terms of polling repercussions.

Perry should get a polling boost after tonight, with Gingrich possibly stagnating.

Why would Gingrich stagnate? He's had a pretty strong debate.

Because he comes off looking like Pillsbury Doughboy's evil twin, and has been an arrogant ass the entire debate.

Well, yeah, but Gingrich is always like that, and it hasn't prevented him from getting support so far.
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« Reply #232 on: November 22, 2011, 09:24:04 PM »
Quote from: Apoiando on November 22, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: seatown on November 22, 2011, 09:21:27 PM
Huntsman and Paul biggest winners imo.

Nah, not Paul. Too many silent moments, too many pregnant pauses.
In substance yes, in performance, no. I say Paul is in second.
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« Reply #233 on: November 22, 2011, 09:24:45 PM »
I'm going to say Perry's the biggest winner just because he's been such an epic fail in every debate until now.
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« Reply #234 on: November 22, 2011, 09:24:54 PM »
Perry correctly places the Monroe Doctrine in the 1820s.  Not bad!
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« Reply #235 on: November 22, 2011, 09:25:23 PM »
I'd actually agree in regards to substance, but performance he comes off as angry and alone and in his positions... though I could be wrong.
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« Reply #236 on: November 22, 2011, 09:25:30 PM »
The Iran-Venezuala axis is not a threat, its just a show, but for whatever reason, people dont seen to believe it exists.
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« Reply #237 on: November 22, 2011, 09:26:40 PM »
No Ron, no!
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« Reply #238 on: November 22, 2011, 09:26:54 PM »
The crowd is very pro drug legalization.
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« Reply #239 on: November 22, 2011, 09:27:12 PM »
Wow, Ron Paul is sounding very coherent with this drug response.
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« Reply #240 on: November 22, 2011, 09:27:35 PM »
Illegal immigration means we need to end the welfare state. Okay, Ron Paul...
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« Reply #241 on: November 22, 2011, 09:27:56 PM »
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on November 22, 2011, 09:27:12 PM
Wow, Ron Paul is sounding very coherent with this drug response.
Its the best night for him so far.
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« Reply #242 on: November 22, 2011, 09:28:09 PM »
NO HERMAN CAIN, WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON DRUGS
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« Reply #243 on: November 22, 2011, 09:28:46 PM »
Wow. 4 things. Take that Perry.
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« Reply #244 on: November 22, 2011, 09:28:46 PM »
Where's 9-9-9, Cain?
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« Reply #245 on: November 22, 2011, 09:29:55 PM »
Rick Santorum directly criticizing Reaganomics... wut?
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« Reply #246 on: November 22, 2011, 09:30:20 PM »
Santorums economic plan is..good!
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« Reply #247 on: November 22, 2011, 09:30:42 PM »
Paul's really kicking ass tonight.
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« Reply #248 on: November 22, 2011, 09:31:06 PM »
I agree 100% Newt. I totally approve of his stance on immigration.
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« Reply #249 on: November 22, 2011, 09:31:27 PM »
How long has it been since Romney was asked a question?
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