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« on: November 22, 2011, 08:07:35 PM »
Good god, was that extended Wrestlemania-style intro really neccessary?
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 08:13:45 PM »
Aw, thunderstorm just took away my tv's satellite signal Sad
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 08:26:28 PM »
Herman Cain... lol

(TV is back!)
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 08:29:51 PM »
Lol, Huntsman brings up term limits in a question about drone strikes in Pakistan?
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 08:33:55 PM »
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 08:33:06 PM
Perry may have finally gotten his drug cocktail right. He is doing very well.

Just wait; let's see if he's still focused after an hour of standing up there.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 08:35:44 PM »
Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on November 22, 2011, 08:34:48 PM
Bachmann has no idea what she is talking about.

That was actually one of the most intelligent debate responses I've heard her say all year (that's not saying much at all, though).
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 08:37:39 PM »
Huntsman gets some big applause attacking Romney!
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 08:39:53 PM »
Romney's getting red-faced...
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2011, 08:42:09 PM »
LOL!!

Santorum: "I AGREE WITH RON PAUL." (five second pause)
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2011, 08:43:37 PM »
Did Blitzer just say Congressman Cain?
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011, 08:48:27 PM »
Oh man, serious policy question to Herman Cain... how is he going to flop this one??
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 08:53:08 PM »
uh oh... Perry's starting to stutter...
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 08:55:20 PM »
Newt: Cut off gasoline to Iran and sabotage their oil refinery
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2011, 09:00:30 PM »
Herman Cain: "I'm going to repeat the question in the form of a statement and mix in a few buzzwords that I'll repeat several times."
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2011, 09:02:38 PM »
Oh man... Romney is basically shouting at this point.
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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2011, 09:05:06 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on November 22, 2011, 09:04:07 PM
Did Mitt just give up on pronouncing Ahmadinejad's name mid way through trying to say it?

Yeah, that was exactly what happened there.
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2011, 09:06:57 PM »
Huntsman is definitely on his A game tonight.
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2011, 09:08:50 PM »
legislay-tors.
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2011, 09:12:14 PM »
Quote from: NHI on November 22, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

Agreed.

Cain is doing as bad as expected so it's not really all that remarkable.

Romney has lost his cool several times now, which is very unusual when he's normally a commanding presence in these debates.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2011, 09:19:46 PM »
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Alcon on November 22, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

My perception: Cain is looking irrelevant and silly, and probably helping his gradual Perry-style bleeding.  Romney is making a mistake by poking at Huntsman especially, but in general keeps starting fights where he ends up looking weak.  The people he's fighting for are demonstrating his appeals (moderation, calmness, certainty, cogency) better than he is.

That said, Perry's strong performance tonight makes for a pretty weird dynamic, and might be the best thing Romney has going tonight, in terms of polling repercussions.

Perry should get a polling boost after tonight, with Gingrich possibly stagnating.

Why would Gingrich stagnate? He's had a pretty strong debate.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 09:23:40 PM »
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on November 22, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Alcon on November 22, 2011, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: redcommander on November 22, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
Why are you all thinking Romney is doing bad? If anyone the worst one on stage it's Cain right now.

My perception: Cain is looking irrelevant and silly, and probably helping his gradual Perry-style bleeding.  Romney is making a mistake by poking at Huntsman especially, but in general keeps starting fights where he ends up looking weak.  The people he's fighting for are demonstrating his appeals (moderation, calmness, certainty, cogency) better than he is.

That said, Perry's strong performance tonight makes for a pretty weird dynamic, and might be the best thing Romney has going tonight, in terms of polling repercussions.

Perry should get a polling boost after tonight, with Gingrich possibly stagnating.

Why would Gingrich stagnate? He's had a pretty strong debate.

Because he comes off looking like Pillsbury Doughboy's evil twin, and has been an arrogant ass the entire debate.

Well, yeah, but Gingrich is always like that, and it hasn't prevented him from getting support so far.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2011, 09:27:12 PM »
Wow, Ron Paul is sounding very coherent with this drug response.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2011, 09:29:55 PM »
Rick Santorum directly criticizing Reaganomics... wut?
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2011, 09:41:57 PM »
Quote from: On That Midnight Cain to Georgia... on November 22, 2011, 09:40:00 PM
Yeah, I'm really confused by what's happening right now. Is Newt supporting amnesty?

It sounds like he's allowing illegal immigrants who have been here a long time (and raised families and "go to church") to be lawful permanent residents, but not citizens. So a "soft" amnesty, of sorts, yeah.
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2011, 09:52:26 PM »

JMFCST FLAVOR OF THE MONTH TRENDWATCH: signs indicate Huntsman may be in line to be the Anti-Romney of December, if Newt's campaign happens to falter
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