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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2004, 07:51:32 AM »

My hunch was correct it seems. Certainly an interesting choice... "Unity Tickets" either work very well or very badly.

Speaking as a former VP and as a soon-to-be Senator, I think Alcon would probably do a good job (certainly when compared to the incumbent).

If this particular ticket is elected I think it would be a good idea to co-operate with the legislature.
Gridlock makes bad government (as the current Administration has proved).
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Akno21
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2004, 08:31:55 AM »

Who are all of the people running so far?

So far it's KEmperor/Alcon vs. Hughento/Peter Bell

Has Peter posted to confirm that yet?

Anyway, this is an interesting pick, yet recent elections have shown that VP's don't need legislative experience to get elected. Though you may be taking GOP support for granted here...do I smell the SRP having a candidate?
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2004, 09:32:47 AM »

My hunch was correct it seems. Certainly an interesting choice... "Unity Tickets" either work very well or very badly.

Speaking as a former VP and as a soon-to-be Senator, I think Alcon would probably do a good job (certainly when compared to the incumbent).

If this particular ticket is elected I think it would be a good idea to co-operate with the legislature.
Gridlock makes bad government (as the current Administration has proved).

Al, I'm interested in what Phil has done that you disagree with.  He doesn't vote and he only opened a few votes on things.  Not to much controversy.
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2004, 10:17:53 AM »

Phil  can be controversial without actually doing much. Wink
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2004, 11:01:31 AM »

Phil  can be controversial without actually doing much. Wink

My actions as Vice President are certainly not controversial. Say what you want about me and who I support elsewhere but as VP I'm not a really controversial figure.
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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2004, 11:38:22 AM »

Phil  can be controversial without actually doing much. Wink

My actions as Vice President are certainly not controversial. Say what you want about me and who I support elsewhere but as VP I'm not a really controversial figure.

I was attempting a joke. Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2004, 11:41:22 AM »

Phil  can be controversial without actually doing much. Wink

My actions as Vice President are certainly not controversial. Say what you want about me and who I support elsewhere but as VP I'm not a really controversial figure.

Touchy.
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2004, 11:46:48 AM »

Phil  can be controversial without actually doing much. Wink

My actions as Vice President are certainly not controversial. Say what you want about me and who I support elsewhere but as VP I'm not a really controversial figure.

Touchy.

You know that you take arrogance to a whole new level, Bono?

I know Gustaf was joking around but there are others that think I am a controversial figure as VP. I just wanted to state how I feel on the matter.
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2004, 02:09:03 PM »

Well, if my real country's vice president was a Santorum admirer I'd consider that controverisal. Smiley
(Hint: Germany doesn't even have a vice president.)
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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2004, 02:13:19 PM »

This doesn't change my vote in any way. Vice Presidents, though important to an administration, have never swayed my vote for any one.
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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2004, 02:28:30 PM »

Alcon is a fantastic choice to be KEmperor's running mate.  This is, I can say without hesitation, the perfect ticket to enact structural reforms of Atlasian politics.  I will even go so far as to say that this may be the best ticket in Atlasia's history. 
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2004, 02:30:37 PM »

Interesting announcement, though one that I am personally a little leery of, because of Alcon's newness to the political realm (I would feel the same about myself, btw, since we registered at the same time).  My endorsement still stands, though.

However, I wouldn't be surprised now if there was a challenge from the right.  I will not lead it, of course.
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2004, 02:32:32 PM »

Alcon is a fantastic choice to be KEmperor's running mate.  This is, I can say without hesitation, the perfect ticket to enact structural reforms of Atlasian politics.  I will even go so far as to say that this may be the best ticket in Atlasia's history. 

What about StevenNick/9iron?

Although Hughento/Htmldon was probably the best we've had so far.
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2004, 02:34:14 PM »

What about StevenNick/9iron?

Although Hughento/Htmldon was probably the best we've had so far.

Oh yes, StevenNick/9iron...I was hoping no one would ever bring that one up ever again.
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2004, 02:48:17 PM »

Well, if my real country's vice president was a Santorum admirer I'd consider that controverisal. Smiley
(Hint: Germany doesn't even have a vice president.)


Note to self: Never go to Germany....  Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2004, 03:23:06 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2004, 03:25:32 PM by King »

Alcon? I don't know Mr. Chief Justice putting a Liberal on your ticket has made it harder for me to vote for you in February.

Alcon isn't an exterme liberal, he is more of a moderate. Good choice, BTW.
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« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2004, 06:23:31 PM »

Alcon? I don't know Mr. Chief Justice putting a Liberal on your ticket has made it harder for me to vote for you in February.

Alcon isn't an exterme liberal, he is more of a moderate. Good choice, BTW.

He's no Moderate, but he's man enough to say he is a Liberal.
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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2004, 07:02:42 PM »

In this particular election, labels like liberal and conservative mean nothing.  This election is a referendum on the constitution and the revisions each ticket plans to make to our current system of government.  It would be wise for voters to refrain from distracting themselves with avatar colors and real life political philosophies, at least for the next election cycle.
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« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2004, 03:10:29 PM »

In this particular election, labels like liberal and conservative mean nothing.  This election is a referendum on the constitution and the revisions each ticket plans to make to our current system of government.  It would be wise for voters to refrain from distracting themselves with avatar colors and real life political philosophies, at least for the next election cycle.

I have no intention of waiting around with this Constitutional convention; I will lobby strongly for it to begin by the middle of January and to be over, or into full swing, by the elections. The fact that the Constitution is in total turmoil shouldn't be informing voter's choices right now, as the likelihood that it will be history by the time the winner takes office.
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« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2004, 03:17:15 PM »

Best tickets were the ones I was on ;-)
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« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2004, 12:25:20 AM »

In this particular election, labels like liberal and conservative mean nothing.  This election is a referendum on the constitution and the revisions each ticket plans to make to our current system of government.  It would be wise for voters to refrain from distracting themselves with avatar colors and real life political philosophies, at least for the next election cycle.

Hmm, a technocratic administration. Intriguing...
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« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2004, 12:23:48 PM »

Hre is my list of greatest Presidential tickets, and a brief explanation of why:

1. Gustaf/Supersoulty- The second I saw this ticket I was like "WOW! This is gold!" The most brilliant ticket ever devised. Two Center-Rightists formerly from the "big two" parties. No wonder it won.

2. Nym90/Al: Sadly I was only an observer durring the first election back in February, but this populist ticket played on the general ideas of the Nym Administration. Too bad this ticket went, down. Well, at least it saved us from Presaident Al, for now... Smiley

3. Hughento/htmldon: Had Nation.King not ran, this ticket would have been elected last October. The brialliant mixing of the Center-Left and the Center and the Midwest and South would have taken it had the Center not been fractured.

4. Al/Lewis Trondheim: With the simple message "Keep the Bastards honest" these "honest bastards" (just kidding) were able to almost take the election despite running a Socialist campaign, This ticket just told it as it was, they were Socialist and damn prud to be one.

5. Harry/Akno: Two clasical liberals who were defeated by simply "trying to take the middle" as I like to call it.

These are the best tickets that were brought up, yet never happened:

1. StatesRights/PBrunsel: I would have been a heck of a lot better off. Either I would have been Vice President or Governor. Staesrights is a vicious campaigner and I could have been his "warm and fuzzy" cordinator. So you could hit me, but then you would be hitting a steel bar in the shape of States,'

2. John Ford/Josh22: A brilliant ticket for the second election in Atlasian history. This Republican ticket of a Western Centrist and a Southern Conservative. This ticket was beating Nym90 in the polls, but I have no idea how it would have done with Gustaf in the race. Maybe with Ford as ther Republican Nominee the UAC never would have ran a candidate. That would have changed our history.

3. John/Josh22: "J+J" was a ticket that you couldn't help but vote for. Smiley

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« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2004, 12:28:57 PM »

Nym/Al never won.  NYm/Harry did.
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« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2004, 12:57:27 PM »

5. Harry/Akno: Two clasical liberals who were defeated by simply "trying to take the middle" as I like to call it.


How did we "try to take the middle"?

Anyway, that was a good ticket, although with all the extra dirt we've both picked up since then, it would be creamed today. A classic Nyman insider ticket though.
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« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2004, 11:20:25 AM »

4. Al/Lewis Trondheim: With the simple message "Keep the Bastards honest" these "honest bastards" (just kidding) were able to almost take the election despite running a Socialist campaign, This ticket just told it as it was, they were Socialist and damn prud to be one.
Almost take the election? Hardly. Still, we got to third place in first preferences, ahead of the UAC, and took 17% of the first preference vote, which was more than we could realistically hope for.
And I'm still proud of the line, "If you can't keep the bastards honest, vote for the honest bastards".
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