Gov. John Kitzhaber stops all executions in Oregon, calling system compromised
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« on: November 22, 2011, 06:41:43 PM »
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Read more at http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/11/gov_john_kitzhaber_stops_all_e.html

Those two executions referenced in 1996 and 1997 were just like the current one pending: the inmate(s) waived their appeals.

Sadly I'm pessimistic about repeal as the death penalty was reinstated in the Oregon state constitution and any change to the state constitution requires a public referendum which means the only path for repeal of the death penalty is a statewide vote from a public that supports capital punishment @ 60-70%.

Still a freedom move in my book.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 06:46:00 PM »
Excellent news!
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 06:54:39 PM »
I think its totally a states right, so any decision they make is a Freedom move..as a relative of a recent murder victim, I am now undecided on execution. I think the people who kill deserve it; but how can I be pro life on abortion and also be pro death penalty? It does not make sense.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 07:21:44 PM »
It'd be a lot easier and less problematic to just abolish it. Not that Kitzhaber will be able to do that.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 07:23:59 PM »
He is in the wrong. As it is not his place to say what the law is, it is his job to execute the law.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 07:25:27 PM »
Quote from: Greed is Good. on November 22, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
He is in the wrong. As it is not his place to say what the law is, it is his job to execute the law.

And it's his constitutional right to act as he is doing now.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 10:41:06 PM »
Hurrah.  Oregon is such a lovely state.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 10:41:57 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2011, 10:42:05 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 03:44:31 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 08:40:13 AM »
Quote from: Franzl on November 22, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: Greed is Good. on November 22, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
He is in the wrong. As it is not his place to say what the law is, it is his job to execute the law.

And it's his constitutional right to act as he is doing now.

Indeed. The Governor can halt any execution and don't even need to answer for this. It's his sole prerogative.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 08:43:58 AM »
Full address: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtK6m2H-ds0
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2011, 09:00:06 AM »

Yeah that is quite nice. He hasn't really used his youtube account much and then, bam, he makes this decision and posts that video straight from his facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/johnkitzhaber

Pretty bold.

Also I think the reason he called for legislative action in the 2013 session as opposed to the 2012 session is because the 2012 session is very short (1-2 month) in the beginning of the year and of course the 2013 session is after the 2012 elections where Democrats are very likely to win a majority back in the state house of representatives (currently tied 30-30 between both parties). There is probably one or two Republicans willing to vote for repeal but I don't know if the House Republican leader will allow for a "conscience vote" like the NY Senate/Gay marriage issue.

Waiting until 2013 also gives time for review of the system, public debate, and of course new polls! Maybe we can repeal it...
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 09:08:41 AM »
They could just put Haugen back in gen pop and let him deal out executions for us.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011, 09:13:24 AM »
Fantastic, fantastic! Grin
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2011, 09:14:04 AM »
Quote from: greenforest32 on November 23, 2011, 09:00:06 AM

Yeah that is quite nice. He hasn't really used his youtube account much and then, bam, he makes this decision and posts that video straight from his facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/johnkitzhaber

Pretty bold.

I just started to like his page Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 12:47:45 AM »
Guess they don't want to bring it to the ballot after all. Especially after the 2012 California initiative failed?

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/04/bill_to_repeal_oregons_death_p_1.html

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 02:16:21 AM »
Now if only Jay Inslee can do the same thing. Or at least dismantle the gallows.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2013, 02:30:42 AM »
Good. I'm rather surprised the death penalty has lasted this long in the Pacific Northwest.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2013, 05:26:46 AM »
Lean FM.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2013, 08:33:04 AM »
While I don't have any moral qualms about the death penalty, the way the system is set up in the USA is terrible. FM.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2013, 09:59:00 AM »
John is finally making me proud Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2013, 12:17:58 PM »
Quote from: angryGreatness on April 19, 2013, 02:16:21 AM
Now if only Jay Inslee can do the same thing. Or at least dismantle the gallows.

I agree. Are there even any people on death row in Washington?
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2013, 12:25:43 PM »
Quote from: Seattle on April 19, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Quote from: angryGreatness on April 19, 2013, 02:16:21 AM
Now if only Jay Inslee can do the same thing. Or at least dismantle the gallows.

I agree. Are there even any people on death row in Washington?

There are 7. The last execution was in 2010; there have been 5 executions in Washington since 1976.

Incidentally, the only two executions in Oregon since 1976 took place under Kitzhaber's previous gubernatorial term in the 90s.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2013, 12:38:43 PM »
Quote from: angryGreatness on April 19, 2013, 02:16:21 AM
Now if only Jay Inslee can do the same thing. Or at least dismantle the gallows.

Robert Lee Yates thanks you for your compassion. 
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